The resolution of prophecy also demonstrates God.
Three ways of demonstrating God:
1 By foreshadowings before Jesus Christ (p.14) or scriptures that tell us of Him or His deeds hundreds and thousands of years before His coming; impossible, therefore, for man to invent.
2 Showing a plot hidden for thousands of years that has developed in the Bible coincidentally among disparate generations of peoples far removed from each other. To the astonishment of every mortal, we will see that the bible speaks of each of us already living in heaven. We will see our story from our fall to our salvation, later in Jacob's Ladder, and we will also see in several places in the bible that salvation history is captured in three and a half tenses (p. 37).
3 In addition, we will decipher words from the Bible (p.93) with the key shown below. A key underlying also the different times and cultures of the people who "write" in the Bible.
But first we will see the keys to decipher the prophecies, and before that we will destroy one of the walls that cloud the vision of Judeo-Christians according to the very definition of God for these religions:
God is who He is.
He is Love and it cannot be injustice, because injustice is lack of love for one of the parties.
To say that God attributes the sin of others different from us is to make Him unjust. It is to deny God. In itself it is Heresy.
Thus, our original sin is an inheritance from Adam and Eve; being that Adam and Eve designated all of us when we were at His side.
(*) Muslims call our original sin (that bitten apple), broken oath, otherwise it becomes the same.
The Bible, especially the Old Testament, speaks with double or deliberately ambiguous meanings. It sometimes uses metaphors to reveal hidden knowledge in a masterful display of planning, and these secrets are also proof of the existence of a Higher Being who is the mastermind behind them. This is because many of these meanings are revealed today, 2000 and 3000 years after they were written, and it is therefore impossible for them to have been passed on from generation to generation. Furthermore, we find that generations and cultures separated by thousands of years have unknowingly written in obedience to this common hidden thread.
These secrets of the Bible have been written so that in our time they may be revealed. All the prophecies, and many Words, find another full meaning beyond the one they show; all from this beginning, however absurd it may seem:
Man was already living together with God before the Universe and the world. Indeed there was a betrayal in which some wished to have more "Essence of God" that which gave us Life (later these will be the demons or fallen ones). They rose up against God, and convinced others who did not hate, but coveted it all the same (represented or hidden by the name "Eve"). For love of the latter there were others who without coveting followed them, also betraying (represented or hidden by the name "Adam"). These figures will be repeated constantly in the Bible under other names.
God tries to save us, for He loves us, but He cannot act unjustly, He is the One Who Is. Nor can He live with evil. After our repentance He could have saved those who neither hated nor coveted, but betrayed for love to the Eves, but the fallen ones cry out for justice and desire the same fate, for those who loved also betrayed. And so they cry out to God: "If they betrayed they also deserve our same fate; save us all or condemn us all". God is the One Who Is. He cannot be unjust and this claim prevents Him from saving only the "lovers".
You may think the following is outrageous and nonsensical, but it will be demonstrated in the essay. The basic and puerile drawing below shows the general lines.
Thus, God has only one way to save us: to create a new Nature that escapes from that justice, because in the beginning, before the first death, in heaven, we were not men (yes, it seems nonsense, have a little patience). But it was not enough to create man and link him to our souls, for these, our souls, were broken by betrayal, by lack of love, we could no longer keep God, the Holy Spirit within us, and to do so by "decree" would be unjust, for our most treacherous "brothers" (whom we call demons), will not receive a body here, they will not be made men like us. The new Nature would also have to be made fit to receive the "Essence of God". And so, the first of those created in heaven, the one who maintained the Essence of God in the highest intensity, the one who pleased God and made the heavenly nature fit: being created independent of God with the Essence of God within him (Jesus - two natures already in heaven, part created, part divine), had to validate the new nature man with a sacrifice of infinite Love. As Jesus was the validating or founding principle of the heavenly nature (created by God) which then validated man, no fallen angel could attribute injustice to this "recreation", for it would be to declare his own creation unjust.
From this we can deduce this other fundamental principle in the prophecies:
The "Eves", who were deceived by the fallen ones and then convinced the "Adams" in heaven, on earth will have no ears for God and will continue to listen to the idols and demons of the world; even if they want to, they will not be able to believe on their own. In the same way, the Adam's will have ears for God and will be able to convert the Eves, and it will be by their experience of Life, experience of love. This happened in reverse in heaven; from the Eves they received perdition, here on earth the deaf or "Eves" will be able to receive salvation for love from the "Adams", from those who hear.
Thus, they are contrasted in the Bible:
Daughters of men (Genesis 6:12 and others). It is designated in feminine, as Eve not because they are women but to differentiate. | Children of God |
Cattle. They cannot be separated from the world and are at the mercy of reptiles (demons). |
Birds (Genesis 7,13-16 and others). In Noah’s ark, all kinds of birds, cattle and snakes (reptiles, vermin – fallen angels) are placed. Birds can be separated from the world (Adam, they will listen to God). |
Deaf, Blind, ‘those outside’. Constant references in the Bible. | He who has ears… , inscribed in the Book of Life |
Race of Canaan | Race of Judah |
Different names that designate common characters.
Serpent | Eve | Adam | Angels | Genesis |
Vermin | Cain | Abel | ||
Pharaoh and his magicians | Daughters of men | Sons of the gods | ||
Reptiles | Livestock, cattle | Birds, Fowl | ||
Assur or Assyria; Aram | Ephraim | Judah | Jerusalem | Isaiah |
Race of Canaan | Race of Judah, Chosen People, Book Enrolled (Life/Israel) | Fish (10 plagues and apocalypse) | Bible in General | |
Burs, thorns | Deaf, hear but do not listen | They have ears | Brother of the prodigal son | Gospel |
Fools | Prodigal son | |||
Rider and his Red Horse | Green Horse (part) | Black Horse (part) | White Horse | Revelation |
Burning Mountain, Red Dragon, Beast, Burning Mountain 2º Living | Beast 2nd, with the same power of the Beast (convincing and condemning) False prophet 4thLiving | Moon (reflects the sunlight, has ears for the Word of God) 3rd Living | Stars, Mosquitoes, Horseflies 1st Living |
1st Time. Our origin in Heaven. 1st The Expulsion. Chapters 1-4. Ch.5 time separator
Here he forms earth and heaven. It places man in Eden which is really heaven.
Eze 28:13-15 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. 14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. 15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
There was the Devil, the serpent, before he was revealed and fell (fallen angel). Of course, it talks about the rebellion, otherwise why put the evil serpent or the devil. Everything is explained as in a story with only the little drawings missing.
In this first part, in the garden of Eden, the groups that will take part in the war and their motives are presented; the rebellion is exposed. The story begins by calling at all times "man" or "woman" who will later be called Adam and Eve. This is an important difference, for, as I say, it refers to collectives; calling "man" does not even metaphorically designate one, but many.
The "man" did such and such...
The "woman" said such and such... (even in this case it is possible to generalise).
Here because of the woman, the man ceases to be what he was for God. Both "die", the woman "killed" by the devil, the man "killed" by the woman; death of Being. Thus the word "woman" is not "female" but will represent those who empty themselves of God by believing the devil, by greed, those who are not inscribed in the book of life here among us; or those who do not listen and like fools have ears only for money and the idols of the world, for the devil. I say "represents", but it really corresponds to what happened in heaven.
The "man", who is also empty of God because of the "woman", will have an open ear for the word of God in the world, because they did not allow themselves to be convinced by the devil, but out of love for the "woman". But it is through the "man" that the "woman" can find salvation, and this is symbolised by the rib, which is also in the place of the heart; it is through the love of the "man" that the "woman" is given a chance; in other words, if the "man" dies because of the "woman", the "woman" can only live because of the "man". It is therefore a representation of what is to happen, which later continues with "daughters of men" confronted with the term "sons of God".
In this 1st time "man" and "woman" are expelled from heaven (Eden), and it designates our first Stage, of the 3 ½ in our history of Salvation. For, as will be explained, God could have struck us down for the betrayal, but made way for the next stages to try to save us (at least the Adam's, who loved).
Ch. 4 Consequences of betrayal
With Cain and Abel we are still talking about the same collective (Eve, Adam), and here we are talking about the effects of rebellion. Now, being the same, we change our names because we no longer have the Holy Spirit; we are not really the same. And so, with Cain and Abel the fact is repeated: Cain kills Abel, or by Eve Adam falls, which is to say the same thing; and the consequence is repeated: Cain is "expelled" (it will be, in the future, we are still in the 1st time) for it to another place that will not give him any fruit (2nd or 3rd time where they will not be able to receive the lost Holy Spirit, they will not be able to receive fruit). It is not a new expulsion, it is the same expulsion of Adam and Eve from Eden that begins the 1st time. But here He will reveal to us the effects of the betrayal (birds, cattle, beasts). I once put the 2nd time here but really this chapter says the same as the previous one, adding that classification or those effects according to the betrayal that I speak of below. The chapters in which he speaks of the long descents are then constituted as separators: Chp.5 (1=>2); Chp.10 (2=>3).
Genesis 4:12 When you till the ground it will no longer yield up its strength to you. A restless wanderer you will be on earth.'
Genesis 4:14-15 Look, today you drive me from the surface of the earth. I must hide from you, and be a restless wanderer on earth. Why, whoever comes across me will kill me!' 'Very well, then,' Yahweh replied, 'whoever kills Cain will suffer a sevenfold vengeance.' So Yahweh put a mark on Cain, so that no one coming across him would kill him.
He speaks of what will happen to him in the 2nd time. There has been a battle in heaven and these are the losers, whom the faithful will not be able to harm (we still remember).
Genesis 4:16 Cain left the presence of Yahweh and settled in the land of Nod, east of Eden.
It is important to know why we are talking only about Cain. The death of Abel as I said speaks to us of the consequences of rebellion. Abel, (Adam) is considered one of the traitors because although he turned his back on God for love, he also betrayed. All under the same name: Cain. In this sense, Cain's descendants are:
Genesis 4:20-22 And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and of such as have cattle. 21 And his brother's name was Jubal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and organ. 22 And Zillah, she also bare Tubalcain, an instructer of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tubalcain was Naamah.
Which designate the 3 groups that remain differentiated and will reach the earth:
…have cattle: Evas or fools who do not separate themselves from the world.
…handle the harp and organ: Adam, listen and praise God. On the other hand, music like birds move through the air (they can separate themselves from the world).
…artificer in brass and iron. Iron describes the demons in Daniel's dreams, they are also forged by burning fire. They represent the demons.
The fact that Cain (4:16) settles in the land of Nod to the east (= where the sun rises: God) of Eden, may speak to us that this fact is a gift or mercy from God, since the normal thing would have been to fulminate us all, i.e. to fall to the other side (west=death), to the flames of hell. The Scriptures are usually very precise about the "East and West".
Then Seth will be born, who will again represent the Adams (since Abel had disappeared), which means that, in the world, beyond our betrayal, which makes us all equal, the descendants of Seth will be the ones who listen (Adam). Even if we are traitors, this will differentiate us on earth. Of course, it is the same "Adam" who are again named separately to speak of this characteristic.
Genesis 4:26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.
2nd Time. Until Noah; "Near to God". Chapters 6-9. 10 separator.
The story was 'cut off' with the recapitulation of the 1st time in chapter 5.
Genesis 6:1-2
When people began being numerous on earth, and daughters had been born to them, the sons of God, looking at the women, saw how beautiful they were and married as many of them as they chose.
Genesis 6:3
Yahweh said, 'My spirit cannot be indefinitely responsible for human beings, who are only flesh; let the time allowed each be a hundred and twenty years.'
We are close to God but not in God. The Adam's meet the Eves or the "sons of God" meet the "daughters of men" or the hearing meet the deaf.
It is still the same as in Eden: the "woman" loses or 'kills' the "man". The deaf to those who listen. God puts us all together, but evil reigns among all.
He wipes the slate clean, symbolised in Noah and the ark. The flood is the restart as real nature as men as we are, with a body. Again with an impossible DNA. From Noah onwards God disappears for us. Before even the 'deaf' could talk to Him. From now on only a chosen few. From then on (6:3) we, as humans, live only 120 years at the most.
Noah symbolises our passage from 'heavenly' nature to human nature, which confirms that God is Love. He provides what is necessary for our salvation, and the human nature is the nature of man (from something empty that falls with Luzbel, to eternal death), so that in the use of our freedom and in the subsequent redemption of that nature (by Jesus) we can be filled again with God and be saved. All these chapters speak of the same thing: of our passage on earth, with chapter 10 being the separator. From chapter 11 onwards we are already on earth..
Chapter 10 The offspring is again the separator (already begun in 9:18)..
It begins with the same structure as the recapitulation or separation from the 1st to the 2nd time; Chapter 5. The account of the offspring already begins in 9:18, that should be the beginning of Chapter 10.
Genesis 10:1
These are the descendants of Noah's sons, Shem, Ham and Japheth, to whom sons
were born after the flood:
…
The descendants of Noah and the kingdoms of the earth that they form are recounted and will later be traversed and named in the Bible. It is worth noting the change in longevity from 800 and more years to living 120 years as men. Today (when I wrote this) the longest living woman in the world is 116 years old according to the Guinness Book of Records. Today... in our land... Above all, it is interesting to point out the uselessness of writing impossible data, such as living these many, many years, if you want to give credibility to what is written, unless it is really true; or else, to differentiate these times. Either way, it would be unreasonable to write this for man, but for God. And it all fits with what was written throughout history by different cultures, thousands of years apart, writing about a secret now revealed.
As a conclusion of Noah (intermediate passage to earth), we finally arrive here:
Genesis 10:32 These are the families of the sons of Noah, after their generations, in their nations: and by these were the nations divided in the earth after the flood.
3rd Time. Babel; Religions, paths to 7 sizes of souls Cp.11.
Let’s look at the tower of Babel:
Genesis 11:1-2
Now the whole earth had one language and few words.
And as men migrated from the east, they
found a plain in the land of Shinar and settled there. (Revised Standard Version – Catholic Edition1)
It repeats for us as in another short story what happens after the rebellion. It tells us what happened: "as humanity moves, it moves from the East" (from the rising sun towards the setting sun, towards death). And we are situated in the vega (=lowland area, usually beside a river =>Life=God). This means that on the way to death (after the rebellion) we stand beside God, but not in God. In the 2nd time is where this 3rd time will be "organised"; where it will be clear who will listen, who will not listen, and who will not have a body. There will also be the demand by the demons to receive the same destiny as the Adam (also traitors), hence the differentiation organised for the earth. We will see that all this, with the same participants, is continually repeated in the scriptures, in different ways with different peoples. The Lord has made it so, so that we can see it today. Babel repeats itself to tell us about religions.
Genesis 11:3
They said to one another, 'Come, let us make bricks and bake them in the
fire.' For stone they used bricks, and for mortar they used
bitumen.
4 'Come,' they said, 'let us build ourselves a city and a tower with its top
reaching heaven. Let us make a name for ourselves, so that
we do not get scattered all over the world.'
The bricks symbolise our sheaths or souls empty of Spirit, which means that we are no longer free out of fear of God and we "associate" in a false behaviour in order not to fall to the ground but to return to Eden. For even if there is a differentiation in our motivation and there will be those on earth who listen to God (Adam) and those who do not (Eve), we are all traitors and empty of the Holy Spirit.
Genesis 11:5-9
Now Yahweh came down to see the city and the tower that the people had built.
'So they are all a single people with a single language!' said Yahweh. 'This
is only the start of their undertakings! Now nothing they plan
to do will be beyond them.
Come, let us go down and confuse their language there, so that they
cannot understand one another.'
Yahweh scattered them thence all over the world, and they stopped building the city.
That is why it was called Babel, since there Yahweh confused the language of
the whole world, and from there Yahweh scattered them all over
the world.
So, on earth God entangles our paths, or, in other words, separates our paths. There must be freedom of choice, it is not that God wants to annoy us, it is that there must be freedom. On the other hand, the tower of Babel, which can also represent the world, has 7 floors (historically: cuneiform tablet called "of the Esagil"), like those 7 churches, 7 religions, 7 types or sizes of soul. In the example I so often give of the school with different classes, guided towards the same direction or teaching, mercy, and by the same principal, this would be like overshadowing the classrooms between them. To think that everyone's is the only valid one, that the others are not directed towards mercy.
Note that in Babel 11:9 ends as Noah 10:32 ends =>
11:9 and from there Yahweh scattered them all over the world.
10:32 by these were the nations divided in the earth after the flood.
God uses two stories to tell us different aspects of the same story. In one, salvation from death (the sea) by means of the ark (Jesus Christ), in the other that separation of cultures, religions (mainly); after Babel he already speaks of peoples, when in Noah they were "persons", a family. In reality, Babel could be at the end of the Second Time (it ends up the same, scattered across the face of the earth), he puts it here, in the part of our world or after the separator, to indicate that this differentiation between sizes was evident in heaven, but here we will only see it through the differentiation of religions.
As a parenthesis on Noah and in general on the stages of salvation, I would like to point out that:
Genesis 9:11
And I shall maintain my covenant with you: that never again shall all living
things be destroyed by the waters of a flood, nor shall there
ever again be a flood to devastate the earth.'
Unfortunately this good news, which is God's covenant with us, is not so good for the one who does not get it here, because, moreover, it is telling us that there will be no new beginning or new opportunity. That there will not be a new environment, a new beginning; because we will already choose in freedom in the new Nature, so dearly bought for us, with the martyrdom of Jesus Christ to fulfil all righteousness.
Genesis continues with the history on our earth (3rd time) in which the children of Abraham grow up among other things. This would be the "long" of the 3rd time, the history before Jesus or the Passion.
Chapter 22. Abraham. Half-time. The Passion, our rescue.
This is the remaining half-time, and it starts from the passion. Of course, being in Genesis the passion could not come out as such, so what the Lord does is a very clear foreshadowing in which Abraham (God the Father), offers his son for sacrifice. Jesus is here Isaac and the goat that will later be sacrificed in his place; one in his heavenly nature that does not die and the other in his human nature that dies on the cross. That is the moment of our salvation, and that is the moment when the half-time begins.
Gen 22:18 And in your seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed.
[Better "seed", thus translated in several Bibles "Latin: semine", because in addition to offspring it is "seed" and Christ is introduced as a seed into the earth, to give life]
In (17 'gate of your enemies'): The Spirit will enter us after the passion.
In (18) Those nations are we, those of Ishmael (Muslims), and others. For did not the Lord send an angel to Ishmael making a promise to him as to Isaac? To those Onagers (wild donkeys), who have pitched tent in front of the others just as He foretold And do you still doubt those 7 ways set by God?
I repeat the foreshadowing here because of how important it is especially here.
Dreams and visions
In the prophet Daniel we will also see our history initiated from heaven, and it will also be done in several stages. The way in which the prophet expounds it is with the dreams of the kings he serves and his own visions. He makes an interpretation of these dreams, but he does so from the world; if these interpretations correspond to actual events in history, then it is because the Lord has used or modified history to show us this hidden message. However, there are interpretations of Daniel that are clearly not real, such as when he predicts (and it comes true) that Nebuchadnezzar would become an animal for 7 years. In these cases the real message of God speaking of our history from our betrayal in heaven prevails. Before I begin the dreams, I will start with chapter 5, skipping over Nebuchadnezzar's first two dreams which I then analyse.
Dan 5:3-6 Then they brought the golden vessels that were taken out of the temple of the house of God which was at Jerusalem; and the king, and his princes, his wives, and his concubines, drank in them. 4 They drank wine, and praised the gods of gold, and of silver, of brass, of iron, of wood, and of stone. 5 In the same hour came forth fingers of a man's hand, and wrote over against the candlestick upon the plaister of the wall of the king's palace: and the king saw the part of the hand that wrote. 6 Then the king's countenance was changed, and his thoughts troubled him, so that the joints of his loins were loosed, and his knees smote one against another.
Dan 5:24-28 Then was the part of the hand sent from him; and this writing was written. 25 And this is the writing that was written, MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN. 26 This is the interpretation of the thing: MENE; God hath numbered thy kingdom, and finished it. 27 TEKEL; Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting. 28 PERES; Thy kingdom is divided, and given to the Medes and Persians.
This word separates Nebuchadnezzar's first two dreams from the next two visions during the reign of Balthasar. It should be noted that, in the writing of the floating fingers (5:25), the first word "Mene" is repeated, so there are some translations that eliminate one of them as redundant and therefore an error. However, it all makes sense, as these words correspond to dreams and visions, and to our stages of salvation. As for the floating fingers writing, it tells us that all this is put here by God, not by man, and that somehow these fingers bring together all the dreams and visions.
Let's look at the meanings Daniel gives.
Mene: God has numbered the days of your reign and brought them to an end.
Mene: God has numbered the days of your reign and brought them to an end.
Tekel: You have been weighed in the balance and you lack weight.
Peres: your kingdom has been divided and given to the Medes and Persians.
The first two Mene speak to us of our first two times of betrayal. 1st at the very moment of rising and 2nd next to God, but not in God; we are not yet on earth. This pre-earth phase is also separated because they are the dreams of Nebuchadnezzar, who curiously, as we will see later, in his 2nd and last dream is warned that he will become a soulless animal, which it says is fulfilled for 7 years until he recognises God. This is basically what happens to us after we are expelled from heaven (God has counted the days of your reign and put an end to them) and cannot receive the Holy Spirit until Christ rescues us in his passion or if you like until the end of our life here when we are judged and return (whoever can) to heaven.
Tekel would be our time in the world (the third time), before the passion. During which, as I say, we cannot receive the Holy Spirit and we are empty. This is described here as lacking weight.
Peres is our last half-time. We can now receive the Spirit. Here he refers to the word "kingdom", which also designates all of us who have ever received the Holy Spirit. He says it is divided, which I think refers to how we are left after the passion. Some, those who can hear, who are the Adams, are pitted against those who cannot (the Eves). This only becomes clear when we are able to receive the Holy Spirit, for it is the Spirit that distinguishes us from one another. Furthermore, Jesus Himself says it: Matt 10.34 Think not that I am come to bring peace on earth: I am not come to bring peace, but a sword. [Father versus son... speaks of division]. On the other hand, by saying that 'it is divided into two', it also speaks of a time divided into two = half a time.
As for the dreams, we will see that they are also divided into two groups, those of heaven and those of earth, although they speak of the same thing in different ways:
• First dream
Dan 2:31-35 Thou, O king, sawest, and behold a great image. This great image, whose brightness was excellent, stood before thee; and the form thereof was terrible. 32 This image's head was of fine gold, his breast and his arms of silver, his belly and his thighs of brass, 33 His legs of iron, his feet part of iron and part of clay. 34 Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them to pieces. 35 Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.
In this dream it speaks of the groups that were revealed in heaven and of the rebellion itself. The head of gold refers to the Adams, those who betrayed for love (gold for God is love). The silver breasts and arms refer to the Eves. This may refer to what has already been mentioned: the Adams betray by thought (marked on the forehead), the Eves are marked on the hand, by action (Apo 13,16. Ver Un poco de Numerología). The belly and loins of bronze, would be the demons and the feet of iron and clay is the satan. The mud perhaps refers to that iniquity which arises from it, and which weakens the structure (the rock, too, is something earthly, and, in fact, later becomes a mountain which fills the whole earth). In the end it is iniquity, that greed, that brings us all down. Rather, it is the trigger, because, although that golden head falls for love, it actually does so following the Eves who fall before and whom we love intensely in heaven. Then the stone turns everything to dust (we are emptied of the Spirit) and together with it we fall like a great mountain and fill the whole earth.
This dream represents the first time, the rebellion. Just after, included in this time, will come the event in which God saves Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego from the furnace (Dan 3:14-93) which may refer to the fact that He does not destroy the Adam, Eve, and demons that will come to the earth; this makes more sense complementing it with other salvations of two more periods, since these three in the reading are sent to the furnace out of faithfulness to God, however, as I said, Daniel's interpretation in the scripture is different from what is hidden in these chapters by God. Thus, for example, the word Abed-nego comes from the Babylonian name formed from the Semitic voice ab-d, meaning "servant, servant", and Nebo, one of the gods of Mesopotamia. If we look up Nebo (Nabu) in Wikipedia, we see that he was a West Semitic Assyrian god, who wears two horns on his hat, and rides a dragon (which belonged to his father -by adoption- Marduk, chief deity of Babylon). According to this, "Abed-nego" would be "servant of Nebo", which would be more in line with those demon servants of satan.
• Second dream
Dan 4:10-17 Thus were the visions of mine head in my bed; I saw, and behold a tree in the midst of the earth, and the height thereof was great. 11 The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the end of all the earth: 12 The leaves thereof were fair, and the fruit thereof much, and in it was meat for all: the beasts of the field had shadow under it, and the fowls of the heaven dwelt in the boughs thereof, and all flesh was fed of it. 13 I saw in the visions of my head upon my bed, and, behold, a watcher and an holy one came down from heaven; 14 He cried aloud, and said thus, Hew down the tree, and cut off his branches, shake off his leaves, and scatter his fruit: let the beasts get away from under it, and the fowls from his branches: 15 Nevertheless leave the stump of his roots in the earth, even with a band of iron and brass, in the tender grass of the field; and let it be wet with the dew of heaven, and let his portion be with the beasts in the grass of the earth: 16 Let his heart be changed from man's, and let a beast's heart be given unto him; and let seven times pass over him. 17 This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.
The tree (4:10) in the centre of the earth is the kingdom of God. It may also refer to the tree of life in the centre of heaven, but in any case, it refers to the Holy Spirit, the Essence of God. In 4:11 it already begins to speak of rebellion, for it was the lust for that Essence, which was available to us in heaven that causes us to take of it and grow without measure (it grew and became stout). Thus this Essence, though unduly taken, was still the Essence of God (beautiful branch, abundant fruit, food for all). From it are nourished the beasts of the field (the demons or angels who coveted and rose up believing themselves to be as much as God), the birds of the air (the adams or angels who took for love the Eves, who later could separate themselves from the earth), and other living creatures (the unnamed, missing Eves). The holy watchman represents the faithful angels and to cut down the tree is to empty the Holy Spirit from the traitors, thieves of the Essence. "Leave alone on the ground the stump with its roots, with chains of iron and bronze among the bushes of the field", speaks to us of our fall to Earth, where we will all be without Spirit: the stump with its roots, without leaves, branches, or life. The stump actually represents the Adam and before the passion we will be enslaved by chains of iron (satan) and bronze (demons); this links with the first dream, that of the statue (image in english). The grass of the field may be the Eves, not comparable to the stump with its roots (particularly mentioned) in the earth. "Let his human soul be taken from him and given an animal soul and let him live seven years", speaks of the same thing, that emptying of the Spirit and that period of probation on earth which will allow us, thanks to God, to be saved. As for the dew of heaven, it can refer to the history of salvation that God has with men, even before Jesus Christ. We are not talking about sap flowing from within but about something external that soaks in.
As I was saying, with regard to the interpretation given by Daniel and then fulfilled for the king, I would point out that it does not make sense from the reality of the world. This dream has not been hidden by apparently historical facts, it only makes sense from heaven.
There are references that tell us that this dream is the 2nd period (close to God, but not in God), the time of Cain and Abel and the tower of Babel: The tree grew and became stout, its height reached to heaven, it is the same image of those who unite to raise the tower of Babel to heaven and then God destroys it. On the other hand, later, in the following chapter (5), he will name the invisible fingers which, as I said, seem to separate our stages in heaven and those on earth. In this sense, the two interpretations of Daniel that we have seen were "Dreams", which are those of heaven, and the two remaining ones are "Visions" which would correspond to our stages on earth (note, moreover, that vision is to the body - it is more physical - as sleep is to the soul, perhaps).
On the other hand, after this dream comes when God saves Daniel in the lion's den Dan 6:10-22. This, which will be repeated at the end of the 4th vision, may mean that God saves the Adams by allowing them to hear and receive the Holy Spirit in due time (not like the deaf, Eve). If earlier he saved from the furnace the 3 which I believe designate groups, now it seems to represent that the birds, Adam, will be able to flee from the beasts (lion's den). This, which seems a bit risky in the interpretation, must be seen as a whole, in these three salvations of execution (two of them exactly the same, in spite of being death sentences of different kings: Darius the Mede, and Cyrus the Persian).
• Third Vision
This dream narrates the rebellion again, telling us about the rebel groups as did the dream of the statue. As it is the third one, it seems to refer to the third period: we are on earth. Actually, there is not much data to affirm this, except for the order, the hand writing on the wall that separated the two previous dreams of heaven (Mene, Mene, of Nebuchadnezzar), the assignment Tekel (you lack weight, no Spirit) and the beginning of the vision: "In my night vision", night being our time on earth.
It begins by speaking of the 4 winds of heaven stirring up the ocean. These may refer to the 4 cardinal points of the earth, although he is probably speaking of the groups or agents participating in the rebellion, which we already know: Adams, Evas, demons and satan. It says "7:3 and how four gigantic beasts, all different from one another, came up out of the sea", the correct translation is "ascended of the sea" (ascendebant), which does not imply coming up out of the sea (death). Note that we were talking about an ocean, not a sea symbolising death, this may be relevant or just a figure of speech.
Dan 7:2-8 Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea. 3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another. 4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it. 5 And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh. 6 After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it. 7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns. 8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things [others: enormous things / insolence / barbarities].
The beasts then are the groups of heaven:
The lion (1st beast) with eagle's wings refers to the Adams, who have their wings removed and will be made men, though their sin was out of love. The Adams are, among these beasts, the best; they still have love.
The bear (2nd beast) like a bear, standing on its side, with three ribs in its jaws, between its teeth... it devours flesh. These are the Eves and the three ribs refer to other Eves they convince, Adam and demons; that is, they convince other angels that eventually by the motivation that leads them to betrayal (love, greed, hatred) they will become one or the other. When it says that the bear rests on the side, it may refer to the fact that on earth they will be placed thanks to the Adam's (from Adam's rib Eve is created), i.e. God especially tries to save those who betrayed out of Love, the Eves betrayed out of greed, without being as bad as the demons who hated, they still turned completely away from God (who is love). That "Adam's rib" could also be one of the ribs in the bear's mouth. The bear's hunger represents the greed of the Eves to get fat with the Holy Spirit.
The leopard (3rd beast). "Then, as I continued to watch, I saw another leopard-like beast with four wings of a bird on its back and four heads, to which they gave power." The leopard is a feline that hunts, not representing royalty like the lion, but cunning and skill in hunting. I think these are the demons in general. When it says they are given power and have four heads I think it refers to the power God gives them to tempt us in the world (4 cardinal points), because this is really given by God when they were already defeated, in order to justify us in the struggle of the world and in our freedom. As for the wings that don't quite fit, they may refer to the fact that they were angels as well or perhaps to the ability they will have to whisper in our ears "flying" without any body at all. There is another reference in the last vision (4th) to the goat that represents the devil and his kind, in which the goat "travels over the earth without touching the ground". Note, moreover, that there are 4 wings (4 cardinal points).
Well, this order would fit with the golden statue, the first dream, maybe I'm wrong and the bear and the leopard are interchanged.
The 4th Beast is frightful and terrible. It is satan who was an extremely beautiful and great angel in the Essence of God. It was through him that iniquity entered and many followed him. He is the worst, the father of hatred.
It says that he has 10 horns and then one came forth by which three fell. This is important: horns are everything with which God is wounded, i.e. a horn can also designate a group of angels or the harm they receive (which wounds God); thus the "death" of these wounds the Lord, just as our sins also do because He loves us.
The little horn that stands out is about blackmail (I want the same fate as the Adam's who are also traitors) by which three groups (horns) will fall to the earth: the Adam's, the Evas and the demons. Indeed blackmail is something that also hurts God, being a small thing: a lie, it makes 3 horns fall. He says that he has human eyes, which may refer to what he will achieve, that we fall like men on earth (only eyes perhaps because demons have no body). The barbarities are the lies of blackmail and surely all the lies of the demons on earth.
Thus there remain in heaven 7 horns, which are the nations or groups by capacity in heaven (7 churches also on earth, the 7 nations by age, if you will, in terms of the soul by which God has set different ways to fill us here on earth with sufficient quantity according to our capacity) and also that blackmail there present (in heaven) until all is concluded (10+1-3= 7+1). Let us remember that these 7 groups that remained in heaven (which were originally there before the betrayal in heaven) were also attacked by the devil in the war and God suffered for them, hence they are "horns that wound".
Continuing same Vision:
Then, the blackmail of the beast has its consequences and that is that God (old man -7:9-) destroys the beast by throwing him into the fire and the other three beasts are left alive and then left on the earth (for a season and time). These are the Adam, Eve and demons. "(7:13) Someone resembling a human being" and the following refers to Jesus. As for the beast and the horn that spoke barbarities and cast into the fire (7:11), it may also refer to the destruction of the racketeer (emerging horn), which will be annulled by the creation of the world and the passion of the Lord (although it will remain present until it is all over), I do not think it is a destruction of satan forever. Moreover, it seems like a way of bringing it all to a conclusion; unlike the next vision which remains unfinished, in this one, the only thing that remains open is the fact that the other three beasts are left alive "7:12 their lives were prolonged for a season and time". As a note the true translation of this should be: "their life had been prolonged to them time and time" (ad tempus et tempus) Can the Lord be any clearer? (remember that in that part it is describing the time of the rebellion in heaven and that we most certainly lived through the 1st + 2nd + [3rd or 4th: earth] stages).
Dan 7:9-12 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire. 10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened. 11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words [ ] which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame. 12 As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time. 13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. 14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.
• Fourth Vision
This is the half time. And this is not only because of the order (4th of 3 and a half times), but because it is the only one not concluded. In the other dreams, the period of salvation or the period of heaven is concluded: in the golden statue, the rebellion is narrated from heaven and ends with its consequence (the earth is filled by the rock that falls); in the tree, also from heaven, the rebellion is narrated and how it falls, but we are already presented with the solution: man recognises that "the Most High is master of the human kingdoms", after which (7 years there) Nebuchadnezzar becomes a man again, for he became a beast. However, after this dream, Daniel goes on to ask:
"How long shall the vision last: the perpetual sacrifice, the desolating iniquity, the sanctuary and the host trodden under foot?" So he places himself in an unfinished time of world history (even though he speaks or asks about a future from his place in time). The answer to this question is the second part of Daniel's prophecies and they also bear on the separation of the three and a half times, as will be seen. It seems then, that in Daniel this half time is determined by the fact that it is unfinished, and does not occur as in other places in the Bible where we are told of the 3 ½ Times and the last half is clearly determined by the passion of Christ. Nevertheless, as I said later, it explains with numbers those three and a half times. In fact, Daniel is the one who speaks most clearly about them in the Bible, if I remember correctly.
Dan 8:3-14 Then I lifted up mine eyes, and saw, and, behold, there stood before the river a ram which had two horns: and the two horns were high; but one was higher than the other, and the higher came up last. 4 I saw the ram pushing westward, and northward, and southward; so that no beasts might stand before him, neither was there any that could deliver out of his hand; but he did according to his will, and became great. 5 And as I was considering, behold, an he goat came from the west on the face of the whole earth, and touched not the ground: and the goat had a notable horn between his eyes. 6 And he came to the ram that had two horns, which I had seen standing before the river, and ran unto him in the fury of his power. 7 And I saw him come close unto the ram, and he was moved with choler against him, and smote the ram, and brake his two horns: and there was no power in the ram to stand before him, but he cast him down to the ground, and stamped upon him: and there was none that could deliver the ram out of his hand. 8 Therefore the he goat waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven. 9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land. 10 And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them. 11 Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down. 12 And the host was given over to it together with the continual burnt-offering through transgression; and it cast down truth to the ground, and it did its pleasure and prospered. 13 Then I heard a holy one speaking; and another holy one said unto that certain one who spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the continual burnt-offering, and the transgression that maketh desolate, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? 14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred evenings and mornings; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
But going back to the dream we see that there is a ram with two horns; one overhanging the other. These horns are the Adam and the Eve. The Eves being, "one was higher than the other, and the higher came up last ", since the Adam group as we were saying are the ones that follow the Eves by processing love for them (fall for them). It says that the ram "charged against the west, the north and the south" which means that he was given freedom to do everything but go against God (the east is where the sun rises = God). It is another way of saying: "eat from any tree but the tree of Life".
A goat comes from the west (=where the sun sets => death) and attacks the ram. This is the satan and his followers. He knocks the ram to the ground and breaks his horns. This already refers to the future fall of Adam and Eve to the earth, to the world, or in any case to the emptying of the Spirit. "(8:8) The goat became very great, and when he was strong, the big horn was broken and in its place stood out four others oriented to the four cardinal directions;" this refers to how the rebellion increased and that in the end the devil and his kind were defeated (the horn is broken off). Now it is divided into 4 horns. As I said in the 3rd dream the horns are everything with which God is wounded or with which God can be wounded, i.e. a horn can also designate the fact of harming a group of angels, which in turn will wound God. So, the rebellion ends, but now it is time to discern and see who is guilty or what is the fault of each one. Four groups are then distinguished by type of betrayal: The Adam, who betrayed out of love for the Eves. The Eves who coveted. The demons who coveted and in the struggle hated and finally the satan who is the promoter, the one who was the most beautiful and the greatest, the father of hatred. From this comes forth a little one, this little horn is blackmail (which deeply wounds God), and which is becoming greater, for by it (I want the same destiny as the Adam who are also traitors), not only the demons, but also the Eves and Adam himself will fall to the earth. "It will reach even to the head of the army" is because finally all this can only be solved by sending Jesus, who already offers Himself in heaven, to save us in the world. So, the direction in which these 4 horns grow into which the one horn separated, are east = Adam (they fall for love), south = Evas (in some places it refers to the south as the Evas for being where the queen of Sheba comes from, I think this was in Job), and the Land of Splendour which refers to the Holy Spirit Himself, the Chief of the Armies, or Jesus who will be sent to earth, or in general to all three, to God.
So that perpetual sacrifice (12), iniquity, and everything else that follows refers to our time away from God, empty of the Holy Spirit (until the passion) or even until the end of the world. When it says "they gave him the army" it means that God revives or allows the life of satan and demons (his army) among us so that through our personal struggle with them we can justify ourselves, in our freedom we can choose Him, we can revive because we came dead to the earth.
After this there are no more visions, so the following chapters can be framed within this time. This is relevant because the last chapter as I said, ends also with the salvation of Daniel by God from the lion's den (I don't know if it is the same den or another one, it places him in "Babylon"). Given that this half time, is not delimited as in the rest of the places in the Bible by the passion, but by the fact of being an unfinished story, we can again think that this is the salvation of the Adams, either because they can receive the Spirit after the Passion or because in general, the world and its entire history is created to try to save them, being the Eves or deaf, only an accompaniment that, if saved, will do it for the Adams (from Adam's rib...).
To summarise and before we go on to the numbers, we see that Daniel is also structured like other readings. The 3'5 times we have already seen shown in the dreams and visions, but in addition we see that God miraculously saves 3 times and after each "great" time.
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Dream of the Statue (2:31-35) God saves Sidrach, Misach and Abdenago from the furnace. (3:14-93) | Mene |
5 6 |
Dream of the tree (4:7-14) Floating fingers writing (5:5-28) God saves Daniel from the lion's den (6:14-23) |
Mene |
Vision of the Ocean and the Beasts (7:2-14) 1st prediction told to Daniel 3’5 years (7:16-27) |
Tekel |
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9 10-11 12 14 |
Vision of the Ram and the Goat (8:3-12) Prediction told to Daniel 2300 Evenings and Mornings (8:13-17) Prediction counted to Daniel 70 weeks. It does not correspond with the others, perhaps it indicates the relation of the sizes of the times (of the total 70,7 and 62, 1 and 0’5 weeks)..(9:22-27) Prediction without numbers (I don't understand it). (10:11-21, 11) Prediction counted to Daniel 1290 days. (12:8-13) God saves Daniel from the lion's den (14:36-41) |
Time Peres |
Mene: God has counted the days of your reign and put an end to them.
Tekel: You have been weighed in the scales and you lack weight.
Peres: Your kingdom has been divided and given to the Medes and Persians.
Let us now analyse the numbers, which is the second part of what I was saying, Daniel shows. These are really of no great significance except to clearly indicate the existence of these three and a half times.
For how long is the vision concerning the continual burnt offering, the transgression that makes desolate, and the giving over of the sanctuary and host to be trampled under foot? 14 The other answered, Two thousand three hundred (2300) evenings and mornings; then the sanctuary will be rehabilitated.
Here there is a discrepancy with the time given later in the continuation of this same text, in Daniel 12 (1290 days) and Revelation 1260 days. The latter refer to the same time and have an explanation 1290 and 1260, but why does it say 2300 here, i.e. 1010 days more? Actually, it is the same figure because 2300 evenings and mornings are days from which the night is taken away. Counting from and to the most visible twilight (civil twilight it is called):
2300 days = 6.3 years.
1 year in Jerusalem (without nights): | 4769:20:46 hours. |
6 years in Jerusalem (without nights): | 28616:04:36 hours. (x 6 años) |
0.3 years is 109.5 days i.e.: | 4769:20:46 hours. |
Total (6.3 years in light hours without night): | 30238:14:06 hours. (/24 hoursxdays=) |
Total (6.3 years in light days without night): | 1259.93 días. |
This means that from 1259.01 to 1260 we are within day 1260 (from 0 to 1 we are within 1, "filling" the one). The decimals would tell us about an hour within that day. This means that 2300 days without night is also 1260 days.
It is important to know that these are not hours of sunshine, but hours of the day without night, that is, counting the twilight. I have taken the data from https://salidaypuestadelsol.com/sun/jerusalem counting in the city of Jerusalem a normal year + 109 days and a half (from April 29 to August 15 both included and adding half a day of August 16). However, this is fulfilled by starting the 109.5 days (0.3) on any day from April 1 to August 25. The formula used by this website is at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunrise_equation, it is quite complex and I don't think it was available in Daniel's time.
So it is saying the same thing, but why express it differently? Perhaps because he also wants to refer to another point, to the moment when all that has been said will also be realised or finalised in heaven. The moment of the end of time, or when God will finally finish with the demons forever. Though in the passion they lost the battle, they still stood by us for our justification. Thus adding 1000 years to the time from when we fell from heaven (abolished the perpetual sacrifice) to the end of the world, we would arrive at "when the sanctuary will be rehabilitated", the sanctuary in heaven. According to Revelation 20:2, once the world is destroyed, the devil will remain immobilised for 1000 years and then he will return to attack the camp of the saints and the beloved city (heaven), and then he will finally be destroyed. I have already explained why this is so in The end of the Apocalypse. p.145: 1000 years of purgatory for those who die near the end of the world and need that purgation (surely for many of us). For if God were to break time now, would it not be unjust that those who need purgation would not be saved because they could not have it? Adding 1010 to the whole period from the betrayal of heaven to the restoration of the sanctuary I think could also refer to those 1000 years of waiting with satan immobilised until the last post-world battle (for 10 years perhaps) to destroy the demons once and for all. However, the 30 difference between 1290 Daniel and 1260 Revelation (and Daniel himself in 2300 evenings and mornings=1260 days), I think refers to the final outcome for us on earth, i.e. the time when we live before the end of the world, but after "(13) the sanctuary and the army trampled down", which would correspond to the (short) time when "the ox will graze with the lamb". It says "(14) then the sanctuary will be rehabilitated", which would be like saying: "with the second option of the numbers we have used, taking the 2300 evenings and mornings, not the 1260 days, the sanctuary of heaven will be rehabilitated".
So, we can take a date or not for the end of the world, the certain thing is that:
16 … Gabriel, explain the vision to him. 17 He came to me, and when he came, I fell on my face in fear. He said to me, «Man, you must understand that the vision refers to the end time.»
The following is a curiosity, best ignored....
Now more numbers; the sealed prophecy, Daniel 12
In chapter 8 we had placed ourselves at the end of the world or of time (which is not the same thing), depending on which number we took 1260 or 2300. Since it was consciously speaking to us of these two moments with the figure (2300 evenings and mornings = 1260 days). He goes on to speak of the final judgement of the dead and the living. When will these wonders be fulfilled? In 12:7 it says this time that the whole history of man must pass (3'5 times), covering the betrayal in heaven (-1-), close to God, but not in Him (Cain and Abel, we live 800 years, we still see Him and talk to Him -2-), on earth before the Passion of Christ (we live 120 years maximum -3-) and after the Passion (1/2 time). This I will explain later. As a note: in this case he may use the 3.5 because it speaks from heaven, and in a generic way. When it speaks of a specific event as it does later (11 counting from... to...) it uses the higher number.
Daniel 12:1-13 «At that time shall arise Michael, the great prince who has charge of your people. And there shall be a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time; but at that time your people shall be delivered, every one whose name shall be found written in the book. 2 And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. 3 And those who are wise shall shine like the brightness of the firmament; and those who turn many to righteousness, like the stars for ever and ever. 4 But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, until the time of the end. Many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase.» 5 Then I Daniel looked, and behold, two others stood, one on this bank of the stream and one on that bank of the stream. 6 And I said to the man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the stream, «How long shall it be till the end of these wonders?» 7 The man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the stream, raised his right hand and his left hand toward heaven; and I heard him swear by him who lives for ever that it would be for a time, two times, and half a time; and that when the shattering of the power of the holy people comes to an end all these things would be accomplished. 8 I heard, but I did not understand. Then I said, «O my lord, what shall be the issue of these things?» 9 He said, «Go your way, Daniel, for the words are shut up and sealed until the time of the end. 10 Many shall purify themselves, and make themselves white, and be refined; but the wicked shall do wickedly; and none of the wicked shall understand; but those who are wise shall understand. 11 And from the time that the continual burnt offering is taken away, and the abomination that makes desolate is set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days [1290]. 12 Blessed is he who waits and comes to the thousand three hundred and thirty-five days. [1335] 13 But go your way till the end; and you shall rest, and shall stand in your allotted place at the end of the days.»
When will these wonders be fulfilled? In 12:7 it says this time that the whole history of man must pass (3'5 times), covering the betrayal in heaven (-1-), close to God, but not in Him (Cain and Abel, we live 800 years, we still see Him and talk to Him -2-), on earth before the Passion of Christ (we live 120 years maximum -3-) and after the Passion (1/2 time). This I will explain later. As a note: in this case he may use the 3.5 because it speaks from heaven, and in a generic way. When it speaks of a specific event as it does later (11 counting from... to...) it uses the higher number.
Then he asks what will be the last of these things? And now he speaks again of the end of time; he actually puts it a little before the end of time: Counting from the time when the perpetual sacrifice is abolished and the abomination of desolation is set up: one thousand two hundred and ninety days. Add 30 to 1260 (1260=42 months, 3.5 years).
In between, in 12:5 to 12:7 he tells us of those who give him the message. One is on the river, whose water must represent the Holy Spirit. The other two are on the banks of the river. These 3 may refer to the Holy Trinity, i.e. the Persons of God, the one above the river being the father. Swearing by the one who lives eternally may refer to his own divinity (as Christ says: God alone is good, this has already been explained). Or perhaps a mention of his own title to a stranger (Who rules here? One and the same...). In Revelation we will see that these are likewise named as witnesses before God, lampstands and oil.
Well, since, as I say, the most important thing is not to draw a concrete date from the earth, these times speak to us more of stages. Let us not confuse them either with a continuous cycle of reincarnation; they are the consequence of God's attempt at salvation, which is realised in the creation of the new Man Nature, validated by full Justice. These 3.5 steps are our history, including our betrayal and salvation. There are some religions that glimpse part of this and frame it, as I said, in a continuous cycle of reincarnation, and as almost always there is some truth, but it is not our destiny or our end, but it has been a means of God to save us, which has generated some determined and counted stages.
As always, I must have missed a lot, but this is where it all goes. Whoever has patience and studies it, will surely come to more concrete conclusions than mine.
And this being so, why leave it sealed? Perhaps to confirm this knowledge, so that today we know our salvation history from heaven. Or simply so that the opening of the seal will be considered a sign that Our Lord is near to come.
In line with all this, when in the scriptures we read (Exo 20,5; Exo, 34,7; Num 14,18; Deu 5,9) that:
Éxo 20:5 you shall not bow down to them or serve them; for I the LORD your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments.
It refers to the same thing, those three and a half times. Each of those generations are those times, periods or eons or whatever we want to call them. He never says directly "until the fourth generation", which would be normal, since by saying 4th generation you include the 3rd generation; he separates them by specifying them because the one who lived during the 3rd period, that is, before the passion of Christ, is not born again after the passion (4th time -which is the last ½ time-), but surely we all passed through the moment of the betrayal (1st) and the one after (2nd). Thus he says: I chastise each one of you whether you reach the 3rd or the 4th place.
Those who hate me here refers to all of us who come out of the Kingdom empty of Him, the thousands are from among the latter, the ones who will finally get saved. There is no room for anything else in righteousness.
In A Great Sign Appeared in Heaven p. 139 , the same numerology is also used.
The following is a curiosity, best ignored...
The equivalence of the Apocalypse that uses the same numbers
This text is found after the sixth angel which touches and happens the things I have explained; we were then placed between the resolution of the betrayal in heaven and our fall to earth. Here in 11.1 he begins by measuring the sanctuary of God and the altar, but he does not measure the outside which has been given to the Gentiles. We, the fallen Adam-Eve, are the outside, the Gentiles, are the demons. They will trample us underfoot for 42 months. Again 42 months equals 1260 days, the same as 3.5 (years) which will be used later also here. This, furthermore, tells us that what is said in these verses, refers to us, and the fallen ones.
3.5 years x 12 months = 42 months, x 30 days = 1260 days
These are equal periods, but taken or grouped in different ways; months, days, years. And the groupings change according to the prophecy (here it is 3.5 days, in another, times), which tells us that it is not the time itself that is important, but the relationship of equivalence between these numbers: 3.5; 42; 1260 and what each one determines. In the sealed prophecy of Daniel, which we have seen before, it says that all will be fulfilled when "A time, times, and half a time, and all these things will be fulfilled when the breaking of the strength of the holy People is finished." (in other translations it puts "2 times" instead of "times" and in others it directly adds up: in three and a half times). This tells us of all the time from the betrayal to the end of the world, but by showing them differently, it shows the places we have passed through, our periods of life or critical moments in our history from heaven:
1. In the sky (3,5).
2. After the betrayal not yet on earth (42, Cain, Abel, we lived hundreds of years, we talked to God…).
3. On earth before the cross (1260, we cannot retain the Spirit, we no longer see God or speak directly to Him, and we live, 120 years at most Gen 6:3.See Three and a half times p. 37).
½ After the cross (this would be the last ½). Here (today), we also live 120 years at the most.
Apocalipsis 11:1-13 Then I was given a measuring rod like a staff, and I was told: «Rise and measure the temple of God and the altar and those who worship there, 2 but do not measure the court outside the temple; leave that out, for it is given over to the nations, and they will trample over the holy city for forty-two months. 3 And I will grant my two witnesses power to prophesy for one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth.» 4 These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands which stand before the Lord of the earth. 5 And if any one would harm them, fire pours out from their mouth and consumes their foes; if any one would harm them, thus he is doomed to be killed. 6 They have power to shut the sky, that no rain may fall during the days of their prophesying, and they have power over the waters to turn them into blood, and to smite the earth with every plague, as often as they desire. 7 And when they have finished their testimony, the beast that ascends from the bottomless pit will make war upon them and conquer them and kill them, 8 and their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which is allegorically called Sodom and Egypt, where their Lord was crucified. 9 For three days and a half men from the peoples and tribes and tongues and nations gaze at their dead bodies and refuse to let them be placed in a tomb, 10 and those who dwell on the earth will rejoice over them and make merry and exchange presents, because these two prophets had been a torment to those who dwell on the earth. 11 But after the three and a half days a breath of life from God entered them, and they stood up on their feet, and great fear fell on those who saw them. 12 Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, «Come up hither!» And in the sight of their foes they went up to heaven in a cloud. 13 And at that hour there was a great earthquake, and a tenth of the city fell; seven thousand people were killed in the earthquake, and the rest were terrified and gave glory to the God of heaven.
It also tells us of the equivalence in ourselves in these periods of life: in heaven with our person and freedom the same as on earth, but with different natures. It is a way of saying that our life in which we staked everything, was given in periods of time different in size, but equal in importance; that is, the betrayal of heaven was realised by all mankind (before we became men) at the same time, in a short space of 'time'. The moment in which our betrayal was confirmed, in which we were with God, but not in God, was another time, and finally on earth, to which we came by generations, which extends over a longer period of time. But at the same time they have the same value, for they are parts of our history in which our life or death is decided. The last half a time, from the passion to the end, perhaps comes to tell us, (I speak of the measure, ½) that it is in reference to the penultimate, which also occurs on earth, or that we are in the same conditions (men, 120 years), but which lasts less time. Then it goes on:
2 but do not measure the court outside the temple; leave that out, for it is given over to the nations, and they will trample over the holy city for forty-two months. 3 And I will grant my two witnesses power to prophesy for one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth
The number 42, tells us that this begins in the 2nd period The Outer court of the Sanctuary has been delivered. We, when we had already been caught up, and were not yet on the earth and the following, the witnesses prophesying (1260) extends from then.
The two witnesses are difficult to identify. They could be two great prophets that arise in the different periods of salvation (3'5). One of them could be Elijah who later returns as John the Baptist and will come before the coming, and that is why it says that they will be seen for 3.5 days (in those periods). Of Elijah it says in the bible that he could shut the sky so that it would not rain as here in verse 6.
It could also be the Holy Spirit himself and Jesus, being that after the battle of heaven the devil was brought up (out of the abyss) to justify us and by blackmail the Adam was also emptied (he will overcome and kill them); to see us empty of the Spirit is like seeing lifeless corpses, corpses of the Spirit and even after death also in the world the emptied ones do not rest in peace:
7 And when they have finished their testimony, the beast that ascends from the bottomless pit will make war upon them and conquer them and kill them. 8 and their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which is allegorically called Sodom and Egypt, where their Lord was crucified. 9 For three days and a half men from the peoples and tribes and tongues and nations gaze at their dead bodies and refuse to let them be placed in a tomb
Anyway, this is difficult to find out, the important thing in the end is to know how to distinguish that these stages of salvation have occurred in our history; it is not the main thing to specify them exactly, because, moreover, as I have been insisting wearily, much has been written intentionally in an ambiguous way or to show this duality or double information of our different stages. All this is confirmed in the exegesis of A great sign appeared in the sky (Rev 12:1-5) p.131.
3.5 years x 12 months = 42 months, x 30 days = 1260 days Equivalent numbers grouped differently. 1260/365 = 3.452 years ~ 3.5. 1290/365 = 3.53 years ~ 3.5. | |
3,5 | It speaks of the first period, of our betrayal in heaven, or of what happened there, or of what began there (at the same time it talks about the whole story 3,5=42=1260). |
42 | It speaks of the 2nd period, close to God, but not in God (Cain and Abel). At the same time it talks about the whole history 3,5=42=1260 years, months, days |
1260 | Third Period. On Earth even passion (we cannot retain the Spirit). |
1290 | (Daniel 12). These 30 added (1260+30) surely to refer to the end time or denouement. |
1335 | (Daniel 12; blessed is he who waits for) Trial or Delivery for the Saved. 1335/365=3.65 (Justice in a Number) It distributes between the days of a year, the hundredth part of a year for each day. This is not at all common in a mathematical operation. |
2300 | End of the Universe (Daniel 8). City of God rebuilt. 1000 years of purgatory are added for those who need it from the last to live in the world, until the restoration of the Sanctuary (Revelation 20,2 see p.223). In addition 2300 evenings and mornings (as it says) are = 1260 days too! Counting the day without the nights, that is counting the most visible twilight (the civil twilight). This data is taken today with seconds by a complex mathematical formula that I do not think was available in the time of the prophet Daniel (see the Prophecy of Daniel and the Apocalypse or https://salidaypuestadelsol.com/sun/jerusalem). |
As a relationship between Daniel and Revelation 11:1-13, note that:
Daniel |
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Apocalypse |
To trample on the perpetual sacrifice, the desolating iniquity, the sanctuary and the army until 2300 evenings and mornings. |
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They will trample the Holy City for 42 weeks. |
2300 Evenings and Mornings are 1260 days |
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42 Weeks = 1260 days |
Well, both writings being by different authors, it is especially significant that they match these terms with the same dates, even more so, taking into account that the formula to get the hours of light, without the nights of a year, is very complicated. Even with the results in hand, I have had to use Excel to check that this is true, and only starting in certain months. This is because you have to calculate it in a specific place (I took Jerusalem) and start the period of 6,301 years in a specific stretch of months, as I say, for it to be fulfilled. The formula that calculates the sunrise and sunset in a place is in the web: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunrise_equation, you can get the results by days in the web that I have indicated in the previous page. I have already explained all this at the beginning of this section (The Sealed Prophecy of Daniel and the Apocalypse), but I find it very interesting. There are other equivalences that I have not put in this table, as for example the difference between 2300 and 1260 that comes to give us those "1000 years + a short time" that Revelation 20,3 also mentions since the sealing of the devil until a last struggle and the judgement of the living and the dead.
Rev 20:3 He cast him into the abyss, and shut him up, and set the seals upon him, that he should seduce the nations no more, until the thousand years should be fulfilled. Then he must be released for a short time.
A bit of numerology
Let’s talk about some numbers used in the Bible.
The number 1 symbolizes God for being singular.
The number 7 symbolizes perfection, the absolute. Everything was created in 7 days; after work (6 days) comes rest, just as heaven will come for those who are fortunate after the world.
Gospel of Matthew 18:21-22 Then Peter went up to him and said, ‘Lord, how often must I forgive my brother if he wrongs me? As often as seven times?’ Jesus answered, ‘Not seven, I tell you, but seventy-seven times.
It is perfection, what should be.
The number 3 symbolizes the whole. There are three times: past, present and future. 3 is forever.
The number 6 is the devil, or so they say. Actually, it represents the number of man and, as such, could well be the devil because, as I propose, we have ceased to be what we were in order to be mediocre men because of betrayal, instigated by the devil. Our being men, then, would be an achievement of the devil.
It is the number of man because God created man on the 6th day.
6 is also a perfect number = the sum of its divisors excepting itself => 1 + 2 + 3 = 6, which may also symbolize that 6 (the devil) replaces the three persons Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
Superlatives
Revelation 13:16-18 Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, 17 so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name. 18 There is need for shrewdness here: anyone clever may interpret the number of the beast: it is the number of a human being, the number 666.
In addition, the superlative that the Israelites made was to repeat the same word three times (Holy, Holy, Holy, the most Holy). The same happens with 6.
If we subtract the Holy Trinity God, 111 (Superlative of 1 single God and also 1 + 1 + 1 makes 3 persons; 3 = totality, forever, eternity. Then 111 represents God the Trinity; one God, three persons), from the superlative of what is perfect, 777, we are left with 666.
Perfection (777) - God (111) = Devil (666)
Which is basically what, I submit, happened in heaven. Being in the perfection of heaven, we tried to take God away deceived by the devil and found ourselves dead and also out of heaven together with the Devil. And at the same time it is the number of man, as I have already said, what we are now for having taken God from us.
Then: "for it is the number of a man. Its number is 666" means that it is the number of 'man' for man is the completion of the beast. As for some being marked with this number on the hand and others on the forehead (I think I explained it somewhere), it already happened in the rebellion in heaven, those who betrayed and acted or worked (Eve), on the hand, and those who did it in thought or doubt, on the forehead (Adam). Once emptied of God we remain dead, "thrown away" we can only exercise our freedom when God gives us our prostheses, our bodies. That freedom is buying and selling. Thanks to God and the passion we men will then have the possibility to receive the Holy Spirit, not so the demons who only hate and have no body, they are not men, they do not have the mark of the beast 666 paradoxically. Gaining and losing the Holy Spirit (you do good or evil).
Also, as far as it is the figure of a man, it is the best way to say also, that the beast was a desire (angel) like us without talking about our origin in heaven or without really mentioning it. Finally, I believe that each 6 also represents each of the actors of this world, of those of us who fell here for leaving God: Adam 6, Eve (deaf) 6 and demons 6.
Now we will study the 7 seals, 7 angels with trumpets, 7 with bowls and 7 with nothing in their hand in which the 3 ½, our salvation history as Hosea did, and Daniel announced, in three and a half times 3,5 are shown independently. Surprising but true.
As a curiosity I give you this verse that speaks of a joint creation of all before (in) the creation of the world and how we are already marked (if not, how arbitrary it would be to inscribe some and not others).
Revelation 17:8
'The beast you have seen was once alive and is alive no longer; it is yet to come up from the Abyss, but only to go to its destruction. And the people of the world, whose names have not been written since the beginning of the world in the book of life, will be astonished when they see how the beast was once alive and is alive no longer, and is still to come.
Relationship between 7 and 12.
Throughout the essay I have mentioned the number 7 a lot. Not only have we studied it as a representation of perfection, but we have also seen it as a classification of the size (soul) types of those of us on earth. This in turn made possible those 7 parallel paths guided by the mercy that God places among us to lead us to Himself, to save us. These are paths for the different "nations" or, rather, for those different sizes of soul. We gave the example of the different ages in men, which deserve different teaching and even different judgement (a child is not the same as an adult).
We have seen the 7 showing us those groups by size, in the 7 Spirits of God, in the 7 Churches (cryptically speaking), in the 7 stars in his right hand, in the 7 seals that we are also each of those types or groups, unable to receive the Holy Spirit since our betrayal, and that only christ can open. Sometimes 7 geographical features are listed, for example, to designate these "types" in a veiled way. 7 weapons, designating the 7 sizes of demons among us (which in the end speak of the same 7 sizes, because there were fallen ones from each of the 7 groups). Without forgetting that God divides his "creation" into 7 days; (Really? If the sun, moon and stars were created on the 4th day, how was it known that they were the first days, those days when the first things were done? Of course, this is written to tell us about that grouping of creation).
These sevens with prophetic value or, at least, significant, are hidden among many other sevens that are used in the routine of Israel and that seem to be symbolic numbers; they are usually used in sacrifices (7 goats, 7 sheep...) and times of sacrifices or punishments. Maybe they are not only symbolic, after all, maybe it was normal that they offered, even without them knowing it, an animal for each group or type of those who fell from heaven...
Many more occurrences of the number 7 are found even in the physical world (7 types of stars equating that intensity of light to the size of the soul, 7 colours of the rainbow, symbol also of God's covenant with us...).
But we have left out the number 12, which is also very present in the symbolism of the Bible. And moreover, it is present from heaven no less.
I was saying, that the Tree of Life represents the Holy Spirit, and this was coveted by the rebellious angels, paradoxically becoming an idol among them. Thus, according to Revelation, the Tree of Life bears 12 fruits a year. They are not different fruits, but the same one that sprouts 12 times during the year. This distinguishes the same fruit or Holy Spirit in 12 groups.
Thus, in the Bible, this hierarchy or grouping will be seen several more times; I will try to establish the relationship or equating between both the hierarchy of 12 and the hierarchy of 7 (the latter so reviewed in this essay).
But first let us review the hierarchy of 12 in the Bible.
When 12 is named, there is one of them that usually comes out wrong (this happened in a similar way with the 7 when, for example, it named geographical features, and one of them was the islands, apart and surrounded by the sea = death; the 7th day - creation - is mentioned apart from the others, in this one God does not act).
Likewise, in a way, we will see it in one of Jacob's 12 tribes, that of Benjamin, who after fighting against the rest of the tribes after committing a grave sin, were decimated and all their women killed. The survivors were assigned the women of a village of Israel whose men were killed by the other tribes for not coming before Yahweh. Subsequently they supplemented the number with other Israelites who were kidnapped. This ensured that the tribe of Benjamin did not disappear (Judges 19:22 - 21:25).
But as for the Tree of Life, is there really a fruit that has also been spoiled? Yes, so it was for many, for if we equate those fruits of the tree, not only to that hierarchy of angels in heaven, but to the fruits we know of the Holy Spirit: charity, joy, peace, patience, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, gentleness, meekness, faithfulness, modesty, continence and chastity. 12 in all, we see that the sin that brought iniquity into heaven was pride, that is, the fruit of humility or modesty failed in many. Later, because of this already faithfulness fails, but that is the sin that broke everything. Later, as with Benjamin, this humility will be restored in those who are saved. It is not that it failed as a fruit of the Spirit, but in the freedom of many this fruit was cast away.
But, speaking of the number 12, is there really a matching symbolism or is it just a coincidence that these coincide? Let's go to the New Testament. The twelve apostles of Christ, in which again there is a traitor, Judas, were not taken in this number because there were 12 tribes in Israel, Jesus did not take into account the tribe of each one (it seems, moreover, that by then several tribes had already disappeared), but he added them as he found them. It is true that in the A.T. there are many occurrences of the 12 due to the 12 tribes of Israel, but not in this case (there are 180 in the whole Bible).
And of course, what confirms this classification is Revelation, where we are told of the heavenly Jerusalem with 12 gates, and seated on 12 stones. Which would come to tell us something like heaven is supported by 12 pillars and has 12 entrances, which again leads me to that hierarchy or grouping, if you will, and again to those different ways to enter heaven (in this case there would be 12? now we will see this...).
Rev 12:1 A great sign appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and a crown of twelve stars on her head;
Rev 21:12 having a wall great and high; having twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels; and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel.
Rev 21:14 The wall of the city stands on twelve stones, which bear the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
Rev 21:21 And the twelve gates are twelve pearls, each gate made of a single pearl; and the street of the city is pure gold, transparent as crystal.
Rev 22:2 In the midst of the street, on either side of the river, is a tree of life, bearing fruit twelve times, once every month; and the leaves thereof are for a medicine to the Gentiles.
But let us consider the second, Rev 21:12 and go back to the Gospel, where we find this said by Jesus:
Matt 19:28 Jesus said to them, "Truly I tell you, I say to you, you who have followed Me, in the regeneration when the Son of Man sits on His glorious throne, you also will sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Don't we know that Christ is the Saviour of mankind? And didn't he know it? Of course He did, He always speaks globally: He refers to Himself as the "son of man"; He does not come to judge this world but to save it; salvation comes from the Jews... neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father... they will worship the Father in Spirit and Truth... (John 4,21-24). So why sit in judgement of the 12 tribes of Israel, who are insignificant, quantitatively speaking, compared to all the inhabitants of the world in all ages? And, above all, why does heaven have 12 gates and 12 pillars, and why does the Tree of Life have 12 fruits? It tells us about this hierarchy among the heavenly creatures, about heaven, about where we fell, about ourselves.
But then what are we left with, are there 7 types or 12? Well, it's a bit puzzling, because it speaks in a similar way referring to the 12 and the 7 in terms of hierarchy, but maybe these words of Jesus clarify something for us:
Mar 8:16-21 They were talking among themselves that they had no loaves. (17) When he realized this, he said to them, "Why are you talking about having no loaves? Do you not yet understand or comprehend? Is it that your minds are dull? (18) Having eyes you do not see, and having ears you do not hear? Do ye not remember (19) when I broke the five loaves for the five thousand? How many baskets full of fragments did ye gather?" "Twelve," they say to him. (20) "And when I broke the seven among the four thousand, how many baskets full of fragments did ye gather?" They say to him, "Seven." 21 And he continued, "Do you still not understand?"
Now let's play with numbers, I know that many of you don't like to do the maths, but let's see.
5 loaves for 5000 leaves 12 baskets (5 : 5000 = 0,001)
7 loaves of bread for 4000 leaves 7 baskets (7 : 4000 = 0,00175)
The bread also symbolises the Holy Spirit. It seems to say that by dividing the Spirit among those we are, there will remain groups of 12 or 7. In fact, dividing one and the other to the third decimal place gives the same result (0.001). It seems that he equates these values, the 12 and the 7. But in addition he gives first 5 and then 7 (5 loaves+7 loaves=12) as if to say: there are 5 (+ 2 fish that we ignore now as we are talking about loaves Mark 6,41-43) in heaven that have exactly 0'001 each and on earth the 7:4000 that give those 0'001 and in addition, the 7 and the 5 again as 4th and 5th decimal ≅ in the 7 loaves is included the 7 and the 5, that is to say the 12.
To put a fine point on it, if we add up all the loaves and all the diners and divide them: (5+7):(5000+4000)= 0.001333..., reminding us of that periodically infinite 3 to God the Trinity. Would it be as if all the Spirit distributed, also among us, completed God entirely? Does this mean that if something of the Spirit dwells in us, that Spirit, with which we are in communion, is part, even if only in the smallest degree, of God the Trinity? And where does that leave us?
Which suggests several theories, but I'll stick with the most important for me, and that is that Hierarchisation already from heaven. Perhaps the 7 and 12 are simply differentiated for the sake of secrecy until today, as it seems to equal them now. It would be too visible if 12 or 7 had always been used. We have already seen the 7 in our daily life, and not only in what was mentioned a moment ago, but also in the days of the week which are 7 (it took God 6 days to make the world and on the 7th day he rested); but we also see the 12 in our daily life, because 12 are the months of the year and 12 are the hours of the day. In the bible, the symbolic meaning of both, in terms of hierarchy (but not in terms of the perfection of the 7), seems to be the same.
Jua 11:9 Jesus answered, "Are not the hours of the day twelve? If one walks in the daytime, he does not stumble, because he sees the light of this world;
And given that a separate one is named in both groups, doesn't it refer to the same thing?
If we look at the hierarchy of angels as deduced from the Scriptures (it seems), we have: cherubim, dominations, principalities, seraphim, virtues, archangels, thrones, powers, and angels. Total 9. We could think that the structure is completed up to 12 in heaven by adding the devil, since he was especially beautiful, above the cherubim I would say. And to continue above would be Jesus Christ as a heavenly creature and God the Father above them all. Which would fit with these fruits of the Holy Spirit. However, this does not fit with the verses that talk about judging all the tribes of Jacob, although it does fit with the one in Revelation that shows the Virgin Mary on the moon and a crown of 12 stars above her head, since she as a woman would be below the heavenly nature and above humanity (so those 12 stars are those groups, not so much the apostles as I have put out there).
So we will leave that as an option and as another possibility, we will place the three actors we have landed to complete that 12 (9+3). The demons, or fallen angels, the Adam, and the Eve. In this case, the 12 would tell us about the structure of Heaven, not only in terms of size, but also in terms of how it was left after the betrayal. And then our soul size as men would not be differentiated, because although it remains in us (reason for the parallel paths of God), also when those who arrive in heaven (we see this in the temple of Ezekiel, which is actually heaven p.89), we will be very different from what we were, very inferior to the angels even if we return there. In this respect Jesus also says to James and his brother (I think) when they ask to be at his side in heaven: "you do not know what you are asking".
But, even counting those additions, of us traitors, if that is the case, why reduce them to 7 on earth? That is to say, if there are 9 types of angels by size (or 10 if we count the devil), why reduce them to 7 on earth, or the other way round, let us first consider the opposite: why is the 12 also present on earth, with the 12 tribes of Jacob, the 12 baskets (joined to the other 7) or the 12 apostles (in addition to the 12 fruits of the Tree of Life, the 12 fruits of the Spirit, the 12 stars that crown the virgin, the 12 gates of heaven)? Maybe it is just to let us know what happened in heaven; just to tell us about our history there, or how it was after the betrayal. In this regard, the orphan psalms, too, describe for us 11 times + 1, the 3 ½ times of which I speak so much in the essay, with the general time, the one that is loose, the one that encompasses all the orphan psalms, being the most serious, for it forms its first time directly with the betrayal of Yahweh and his Anointed (1st and 2nd Psalms). See Orphan Psalms p.155.
As to why reduce them to 7 down here, perhaps it is because there was some kind of the higher ones that did not betray and are not present on earth, of course the devil has no way, so it would be ruled out.
Anyway, I was just interested in showing that relationship between the 12 and the 7. They are ways of reflecting that grouping already from heaven, which directly influence the ways that God has put here to save us, ways that teach us (or remind us of what we were, if you will), according to our original capacity in which God created us in heaven. This alone is enough to prove that God gives us related and coherent clues that speak in the same direction. And now I am not talking about the 3 ½ times, for these are no longer clues, they are clear teachings that, if known, can only be ignored by those who consciously want to turn their backs on God. He who has ears let him hear, for so says Jesus Christ:
Matt 10:32-33 "Whoever declares himself for me before men, I will declare myself for him also before my Father who is in heaven; 33 but whoever denies me before men, him will I also deny before my Father who is in heaven.
What will become of him who directly denies the Father before men, or rather denies men the possibility of seeing the Father? I shudder at the thought of putting myself in his shoes....
(This part is a bit more complicated, if you are just starting to decipher the Bible it would be good to move on prefigurations and postfigurations -Jacob's Ladder-)
The Seven Seals
Looking at these readings from the “dual” perspective gives new meanings, as I said, to many passages. In Revelation 5, it talks about everything in the book, more than just the seven seals. It asks who will be able to open it, and then says that it is the son of David, the slain lamb…
That book would be each one of us, on each of its pages. Thus in Jesus Christ all the souls of men, of every creed and nation, are healed. Those pages are all mankind and God's heavenly creatures (front and back, for as the firstborn [=first created], through His complacency [=maintains the Essence of God in its highest intensity] in God, the angels were created afterwards), and He opens for us the possibility of returning to God, life itself, He opens the world and the Universe as the stage of a History of Salvation which without Him could not have been given; for He frees us from the former righteousness (heavenly, for that was our nature before the betrayal) by making a new nature for us fit to receive the Holy Spirit. He makes everything new, we can start from scratch.
Revelation is written without time, for it finally predicts the end of the world. Jesus Christ is described in the future as the one who will open the 7 seals by his sacrifice. This is like saying that without the passion of Jesus Christ the world would not have existed. From a future for the origin of the world, without Him it would disappear to our past in the world. This is so because God is outside of time, and because Christ already offers Himself to save the desires (us treacherous angels) after our rebellion in heaven. Thus, God's plan to give us our new nature to try to save us begins before the world and the Universe. Furthermore, the 7 Seals also symbolise the seven types of angels by size (or ages, if you will). Because in the world, as in heaven, there are people of 7 sizes of soul, so there are demons of 7 sizes, not all are the same. God has set 7 paths or religions for 7 sizes, and we will have to fight against our particular size of demon. Hence, these different paths; we need different training, because a child is not required to do the same as an adult, and a special operations soldier is prepared differently to solve more difficult missions. We were blocked or sealed like those seals, which only Christ could open so that the Holy Spirit could enter again.
In chapter 6 he continues with the seven seals. These now seem to speak chronologically of the history of mankind, but starting from heaven as God's creatures were left after the betrayal. To understand the seals it is helpful to read these verses from Chapter 4 which speak of heaven and its powers.
Chapter 6 continues with the seven seals. These now seem to speak chronologically in the history of man, but starting from heaven with the way God’s creatures were after the betrayal.To understand the seals, it’s helpful to read these verses from Chapter 4, which speaks of heaven and its beings.
Imagine for a moment that these “living creatures”, full of eyes, are the peoples or types of angels according to their faithfulness and size, (this will be understood better later in the seals). Then, in the first four seals it will tell us about the "sides", let's say, present in heaven after the betrayal. Let us think that "living creatures all studded with eyes" seems to describe an essence, or something common, with different people (one does not imagine the eyes ahead and behind coordinated, but each one to his own).
Revelation 5:1-14
1 I saw in the right hand of Him who sat on the throne a book written inside and on the back, sealed up with seven seals. 2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, "Who is worthy to open the book and to break its seals?" 3 And no one in heaven or on the earth or under the earth was able to open the book or to look into it. 4 Then I began to weep greatly because no one was found worthy to open the book or to look into it; 5 and one of the elders said to me, "Stop weeping; behold, the Lion that is from the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has overcome so as to open the book and its seven seals." 6 And I saw between the throne (with the four living creatures ) and the elders a Lamb standing, as if slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God, sent out into all the earth. 7 And He came and took the book out of the right hand of Him who sat on the throne. 8 When He had taken the book, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each one holding a harp and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints. 9 And they sang a new song, saying, "Worthy are You to take the book and to break its seals; for You were slain, and purchased for God with Your blood men from every tribe and tongue and people and nation. 10 "You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God; and they will reign upon the earth."
Angels Exalt the Lamb
11 Then I looked, and I heard the voice of many angels around the throne and the living creatures and the elders; and the number of them was myriads of myriads, and thousands of thousands, 12 saying with a loud voice, "Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power and riches and wisdom and might and honor and glory and blessing." 13 And every created thing which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all things in them, I heard saying, "To Him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, be blessing and honor and glory and dominion forever and ever." 14 And the four living creatures kept saying, "Amen." And the elders fell down and worshiped. [New American Standard Bilbe]
Revelation 4:5-8
5 Flashes of lightning were coming from the throne, and the sound of peals of thunder, and in front of the throne there were seven flaming lamps burning, the seven Spirits of God. 6 In front of the throne was a sea as transparent as crystal. In the middle of the throne and around it, were four living creatures all studded with eyes, in front and behind.
7 The first living creature was like a lion, the second like a bull, the third living creature had a human face, and the fourth living creature was like a flying eagle.
8 Each of the four living creatures had six wings and was studded with eyes all the way round as well as inside; and day and night they never stopped singing: Holy, Holy, Holy is the Lord God, the Almighty; who was, and is and is to come.’
Opening of the 7 Seals
6:1 Then, in my vision, I saw the Lamb break one of the seven seals, and I heard one of the four living creatures shout in a voice like thunder, ‘Come!’
2 Immediately I saw a white horse appear, and its rider was holding a bow; he was given a victor’s crown and he went away, to go from victory to victory.
The first seal (6:1), has a Horseman riding a white horse with a crown and is the victor and will be the victor. It seems to refer to Jesus Christ, first wish of God who remains in Him and vice versa. The beginning of everything, even for the angels. The 1st Living Creature would be the people of God, the faithful Angels => like a lion.
6:3 When he broke the second seal, I heard the second living creature shout, ‘Come!’
6:4 And out came another horse, bright red, and its rider was given this duty: to take away peace from the earth and set people killing each other. He was given a huge sword.
The second seal (6:3), has a Rider on the back of the red horse. Luzbel is also granted freedom and he uses or will use it to remove peace from the (earth = heaven). He will decide to rise up in rebellion. He has a big sword; this can refer to his power or to his size, I believe we all have different sizes of souls, I will explain this in the parable of the talents. I think Luzbel must have been of considerable size. In the Bible he is described as a beautiful and fair angel before the rising. The 2nd Living One would be the fallen angels => Horned steer, but not with the presence of a bull.
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6:5 When he broke the third seal, I heard the third living creature shout, ‘Come!’ Immediately I saw a black horse appear, and its rider was holding a pair of scales;
6:6 and I seemed to hear a voice shout from among the four living creatures and say, ‘A day’s wages for a quart of corn, and a day’s wages for three quarts of barley, but do not tamper with the oil or the wine.’
The third seal (6:5),has a Horseman riding a black horse. With a scale. I believe it is the Holy Spirit because he is in charge of measuring our capacity of "God", by instructions of God himself => "voice from the midst of the 4 living ones"; thus the 3rd Living One: it seems to be us, from the rest of God's desires =>"he has a face like a man". Of us who were then made man. It speaks of capacities measured per denarius, just like the parable of the talents as I was saying.The Essence of God was taken away from us, but the wine (life, freedom) and the oil, which could be the soul (gives body, consistency), were respected. Thus freedom makes us independent as desires and forms the person. * In other translations it says "do not waste the oil and the wine".
6:7 When he broke the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature shout, ‘Come!’
6:8 Immediately I saw another horse appear, deathly pale, and its rider was called Death, and Hades followed at its heels. They were given authority over a quarter of the earth, to kill by the sword, by famine, by plague and through wild beasts.
The fourth seal (6:7),has a Rider on the greenish horse, called death and is followed by Hades. 'Death' is the result of betrayal, Hades the 'dead' who persecute or poison the Adams, (with power over 1/4) and also the Adams (Hades’= abode of the dead’ follows, Adam is also emptied). The 4th Living, are those who listened to Satan, the Eves, those who cannot listen here. It is the eagle as a representation of death, both for the one who hunts (demons, Eve afterwards) and for the hunted (Eve Adam) =>as an eagle in flight, on the lookout
6:9 When he broke the fifth seal, I saw underneath the altar the souls of all the people who had been killed on account of the Word of God, for witnessing to it. 10 They shouted in a loud voice, ‘Holy, true Master, how much longer will you wait before you pass sentence and take vengeance for our death on the inhabitants of the earth?’
6:11 Each of them was given a white robe, and they were told to be patient a little longer, until the roll was completed of their fellow-servants and brothers who were still to be killed as they had been.
The fifth seal (6:9). There is no longer a horse. It is no longer shown by a Living Creature. All of the positions or participants have been described. In this seal, it speaks of those who fall in the battle of heaven (and also of earth) against the followers of Lucifer and the justice they claim.
6:12 In my vision, when he broke the sixth seal, there was a violent earthquake and the sun went as black as coarse sackcloth; the moon turned red as blood all over, 13 and the stars of the sky fell onto the earth like figs dropping from a fig tree when a high wind shakes it; 6:14 the sky disappeared like a scroll rolling up and all the mountains and islands were shaken from their places.
6:15 Then all the kings of the earth, the governors and the commanders, the rich people and the men of influence, the whole population, slaves and citizens, hid in caverns and among the rocks of the mountains.
6:16 They said to the mountains and the rocks, ‘Fall on us and hide us away from the One who sits on the throne and from the retribution of the Lamb.
6:17 For the Great Day of his retribution has come, and who can face it?’
7:1 Next I saw four angels, standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the world to keep them from blowing over the land or the sea or any tree. 2 Then I saw another angel rising where the sun rises, carrying the seal of the living God; he called in a powerful voice to the four angels whose duty was to devastate land and sea,
7:3 ‘Wait before you do any damage on land or at sea or to the trees, until we have put the seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.’
The sixth seal (6:12). Earthquake… the stars fall from the sky, which disappears like a scroll rolling up. The fall of the doubting angels (stars) and the traitors. Heaven is no longer for them, and they fall to the “earth” (I believe at this point we are already empty and on the earth or it simply refers to outside of heaven). It continues… the earth will not be destroyed until the servants of our God (those who return to heaven) are marked.
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8:1 The Lamb then broke the seventh seal, and there wassilence in heaven for about half an hour. 2 Next I saw seven trumpets being given to the seven angels who stand in the presence of God.
The seventh seal (8:1). Half an hour refers to the half hour, although in reality it has already begun a few verses earlier. That half hour is the remainder of the world from the passion to the end. In this seal everything is resolved and those who make it will return to heaven.
This is what I see. God shows us everything, from the beginning in heaven. And by everything I mean the book of life with its seven seals. In Revelation there is the before and the after. God tells us that He is at the centre, that there are 4 types of 'desires' or creations around Him, which are the result of how they have exercised their freedom and what they have become.
Only the first Living Creature is in the middle (of Him), true to His Essence, and the Horseman, Christ also remains in Him, represented by the lion and the crown of victory. The others are around the throne. The distance is not specified. They are the angels, archangels and faithful beings.
The red horse also seems obvious, with the horns and all.
The most complicated is the black one, referring to the Spirit. It seems that the voice is God, because it says it comes from among the 4 living creatures. The living creature, us (with human face). Distributes the volume (quarts) of our soul or capacity to receive the Holy Spirit, represented by black because what it ultimately does is remove Life, the Holy Spirit, or at least distribute what is left of the soul without the Spirit; it measures us and determines the size of our empty “bags”. It says, “A day’s wages for a quart of corn, and a day’s wages for three quarts of barley, but do not tamper with the oil or the wine.” Well, if, as I propose, the Adams are different from the Eves because they did not listen to the devil but to the Eves themselves (for love), they are the ones who are best off. The Adams, open to the word of God, will receive a volume (not weight) of corn (in the Bible, corn usually means wheat, as the corn native to the New World was not known in biblical times – bread from wheat also represents the Holy Spirit). The Eves, a volume of barley (which is often used to make alcoholic beverages, representing the amusements and idols of the world, perhaps). Do not tamper with the oil, could mean that even after the betrayal He allows us to keep the soul or bag that gives us consistency (to both the Adams and Eves); it isn’t taken away from us, as it is with the Holy Spirit. The wine perhaps is the freedom to choose (which gives us the possibility of living - lower case – of choosing, also in the world, even without the Holy Spirit).
The greenish one is the only one with a name, so I think it is the consequence in itself of those who have followed it. It is death. And his followers (the Living One) are those who pursue Life to destroy it both in heaven and on earth. They are the Eves who listened to Satan and on earth they only have ears for idols (the world) they cannot hear the Word of God, and they are the devils, possessed, etc. They have power over the fourth part of all, which I believe are the Adams. Those who kill are; the wild beasts of the earth (the idols and their devils), the pestilence (the Eves convince or infect), the sword I don't know if it refers to something the fallen ones used in heaven or to the tongue or refers to the fear of death; the famine to the need. They are represented by the eagles in flight (on the lookout for Adam).
It seems clear then, that we already existed before the world and when we stopped being, God gives us the world to try to recover us. This is the conclusion I have come to because I get to the same place here as from Genesis and other passages of the Bible.
It follows then that Jesus Christ opens the seven seals (begins creation), and even opens the possibility for a new nature of salvation, man redeemed or potentially able to receive the Spirit (also written on the reverse side). And he not only opens the seals to us, but also for all celestial creation (obverse), because everything else is created because of God’s first wish, Jesus Christ, who in His infinite love pleases God and maintains His own Essence, creates everything else. He validated the heavenly nature as He also validated the nature of man.
Now let's look at this part from what it really wants to express which are those 3 ½ times of our salvation history.
1st time in seals.
We see that the seals speak to us of the betrayal in heaven in the first four seals not only describes something of the participants but also what happens to them in the rebellion. The first, the winner; the second the devil, who will be left with the sword to tempt us; the third the man from whom the Holy Spirit is taken away; the fourth a mention of the Eves (as by them the Adams fell), who will not be able to receive the Spirit, the plague is certain death (deaf later).
2nd time in seals.
The fifth seal, without a horse, tells us that after the rebellion God could have annihilated all the rebels by heeding the blood shed for justice, but He does not do so. He wants to wait to tell the rest of the faithful.
3rd time in seals.
The sixth seal is our fall to earth and the time we live here until before the passion. It is very clear (the stars are us).
½ Time in seals.
Before the opening of the 7th seal the % time already begins.
Rev 7:9-17 Then I looked, and there was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, from every race, people, and language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands. 10 And they cry out with a loud voice, "Salvation is of our God, who sits on the throne, and of the Lamb." 11 And all the angels standing around the throne of the Elders and the four Living Ones fell down before the throne, with their faces to the ground, and worshiped God 12 saying, "Amen. Praise, glory, wisdom, thanksgiving, honour, power and might, to our God for ever and ever. Amen." 13 One of the Elders spoke up and said to me, "Those who are clothed in white robes, who are they, and where have they come from? "14 I answered him, "My Lord, you will know." He answered me, "Those are they who come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 Therefore they are before the throne of God, worshipping him day and night in his sanctuary; and he who sits on the throne will spread his tent over them. 16 They shall hunger no more, neither shall they thirst any more; neither shall they be troubled by the sun, nor by any heat. 17 For the Lamb who is in the midst of the throne will feed them and lead them to the springs of the waters of life. And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes."
So, that half time constitutes these verses and the opening of the seal is in 8:1. Why does he put this before opening the 7th? Because Jesus Christ already offers Himself in heaven before the creation of the world to save us; He is the solution to the devil's blackmail for the same righteousness as Adam. Salvation really begins before the world. This, moreover, tells the story on the front and on the back. It seems as if he tells it all from heaven and, the world, he explains it as a parenthesis; then he says "there was a silence of ½ hour" referring also to the same thing. In Jesus' offer in heaven our salvation is officially established, in the world it will be fulfilled. Furthermore, this indicates to us that the ½ hour of the 3 ½ hours shown in the entire apocalypse (not just the seals in particular) will also be out of order.
We used to think of the four horsemen of the apocalypse as Victory, War, Famine and Death, but in reality it has little to do with that.
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We will now see that there are 2 more structures of 7 angels that represent in their interior, also independently, the 3 ½ times. If you like, you can think of each angel with his trumpet/cup as speaking of his corresponding seal, and then you will see that they coincide. In reality it is because they are also describing what happened, in their own way. Revelation sets out the 3 ½ Times independently 3 times and once more in general between all its verses.
Revelation too, as with Genesis, Daniel, Ezekiel, Hosea... is arranged to represent those 3 ½ times that are our salvation history since our betrayal in heaven. Which, again, is amazing.
We will also see that these structures have points in common. For example, just before the seventh seal and the seventh trumpet an Angel appears (from the east in one case - Rev 7:2 - where the sun = God rises, and from heaven in the other - Rev 10:1) who speaks of what the prophets will do and suffer on our earth. These pauses (also: the first Woe is past, Blessed is he who stays awake and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked and his shame be seen"...) are changes of step or time.
First structure of 7 Angels (these have trumpets) and structure of 7 Angels with cups, compared.
I’ll start with the angels of the trumpets compared to those of the cups. Actually the group of 7 angels with nothing in their hands (trumpets or cups) goes in the middle, but I will put it later and so we will see it better.
1st Time in Trumpets and Cups
First Trumpet
Rev 8:7 The first angel blew his trumpet, and there followed hail and fire, mixed with blood, which fell on the earth; and a third of the earth was burnt up, and a third of the trees were burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.
First Bowl
Rev 16:2 So the first angel went and poured his bowl on the earth, and foul and evil sores came upon the men who bore the mark of the beast and worshiped its image.
First Trumpet. Hail and fire destroy a third of the earth, trees.... are scorched. Those trees are us, all the angels who arose. Once alive, now dead or without Spirit. Thus, the hail and fire mixed with blood, speaks to us of the treachery and iniquity that leads to the death of life, to its loss. It indicates that, of the loyal angels represented by the 1st seal of the white horse, 1/3 are lost. This is equivalent to the first cup that produces malignant ulcers in these same angels through which the blood, the life, is lost. Through the "broken" ones, the Spirit is lost. "Ulcer", moreover, speaks to us of a wound that does not close, because in reality it does not heal, we will never be angels again. We will have to move on to a new nature that is validated by Jesus Christ.
Second Trumpet
Rev 8:8 The second angel blew his trumpet, and something like a great mountain, burning with fire, was thrown into the sea; 9 and a third of the sea became blood, a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed.
Second Bowl.
Rev 16,3 The second angel poured his bowl into the sea, and it became like the blood of a dead man, and every living thing died that was in the sea.
Second Trumpet. A great mountain falls burning into the sea. Mountain speaks of something high and big. And it falls burning (full of hatred) into the sea (death of being). It refers to Satan who falls from Angel of the greatest and most beautiful (see Ezekiel 28:12-17) to the worst because of his iniquity, which he infects. This causes, by his action, many to be convinced; many who had water mixed with salt (sea) not pure water, which refers to hatred, iniquity or simply greed. In this case he is equating the sea to the revolted since they are dead, and the sea symbolises death, as a kind of metaphor. These are all those who hated as Luz Bel, the rest of those who will be fallen angels. It says that the third part of the fish, (who were once living angels), die as such, and their vessels (or persons with freedom) are destroyed; the demons now only hate, they will not keep their person with freedom as we keep it even when we are fallen on earth. It has equivalence with the second cup. When he speaks of water or sea he usually speaks of Essence (water) or of the turbid state of "Essence" (sea). The sea represents here, as I say, the fallen angels and the consequence for them is the same, "blood as of the dead" and death of the soul. And both trumpet and cup speak of the 2nd seal, the rider on the red horse, or what is the same of them in rebellion; this is part of the 1st time which is repeated 3 times (the 3 ½ times).
Third Trumpet
Rev 8:10 The third angel blew his trumpet, and a great star fell from heaven, blazing like a torch, and it fell on a third of the rivers and on the fountains of water. 11 The name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters became wormwood, and many men died of the water, because it was made bitter.
Third Bowl
Rev 16,4 The third angel poured his bowl into the rivers and the fountains of water, and they became blood. 5 And I heard the angel of water say, «Just art thou in these thy judgments, thou who art and wast, O Holy One. 6 For men have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink. It is their due!» 7 And I heard the altar cry, «Yea, Lord God the Almighty, true and just are thy judgments!»
Third Trumpet. A big star falls. Again it is the devil (Wormwood), which falls on fresh water; the Adams, they did not hate. He repeats it again because now he speaks of the effect on the Adams, and also on the Eves. Let us bear in mind that the rebellion, iniquity or hatred comes out of Satan and his; then he convinces or poisons Eve. That is to say, when the demon, the great star, falls, he makes the pure water of the Eves turn into "Wormwood"; it will be later when the Eves make the Adams fall, also by the first "push" of Satan. All this is as it then follows in his cup, an action of justice, including the emptying of the Adams because these, although for love, were also traitors and so it says here we also intervened in the battle of heaven. Trumpet and cup correspond to the rider of the black horse who divides the Adam, Eve according to their guilt; i.e. they also speak of the rebellion of heaven 1st Time.
Fourth Trumpet
Rev 8:12 The fourth angel blew his trumpet, and a third of the sun was struck, and a third of the moon, and a third of the stars, so that a third of their light was darkened; a third of the day was kept from shining, and likewise a third of the night.
Fourth Bowl
Rev 16,8 The fourth angel poured his bowl on the sun, and it was allowed to scorch men with fire; 9 men were scorched by the fierce heat, and they cursed the name of God who had power over these plagues, and they did not repent and give him glory.
Fourth Trumpet.A third of the sun, moon and stars were wounded. The day loses a third part of its brightness. This is a consequence of the same thing, the Water or the Essence of God disappears from these. I won't say that it became a shadow because I don't think that can happen. I think it fled from them or from us I should say. So, the lack of light is darkness. If in the 2nd seal (red horse) it spoke of the demons and Satan, and in the 3rd of the traitorous Adam and Eve, here it encompasses all the dead (it is the green horse, death). The corresponding cup also speaks of this, although it says: "and he was appointed to scorch men with fire"; which is the same thing, but now he makes a nuance and it is that the demons will then scorch us on earth, even though we are part of this same group of God's emptied ones, those who darken the sun. He then refers to the continual temptations experienced without the Holy Spirit. By saying that day and night lost light, it specifies both Adam and Eve (day) and the demons (night). We see that although the 3 ½ times are drawn in the 3 structures (seals, trumpets and bowls), in the trumpets the consequences are shown more, so that they will be reflected more on the earth.symbol of the living one of the corresponding seal, followed them.
Before the 5th there is a pause or separation between the first 4 and the other 3:
Rev 8:13 Then I looked, and I heard an eagle crying with a loud voice, as it flew in midheaven, «Woe, woe, woe to those who dwell on the earth, at the blasts of the other trumpets which the three angels are about to blow!»
Separation
Now an eagle marks a separation (8.13). Woe to the inhabitants of the earth when the voices of the trumpets of the other three angels sound! Factions have already been distinguished by how they have acted in the battle in the heavens.
Fith Trumpet
Rev 9:1 And the fifth angel blew his trumpet, and I saw a star fallen from heaven to earth, and he was given the key of the shaft of the bottomless pit; 2 he opened the shaft of the bottomless pit, and from the shaft rose smoke like the smoke of a great furnace, and the sun and the air were darkened with the smoke from the shaft. 3 Then from the smoke came locusts on the earth, and they were given power like the power of scorpions of the earth; 4 they were told not to harm the grass of the earth or any green growth or any tree, but only those of mankind who have not the seal of God upon their foreheads; 5 they were allowed to torture them for five months, but not to kill them, and their torture was like the torture of a scorpion, when it stings a man. 6 And in those days men will seek death and will not find it; they will long to die, and death will fly from them. 7 In appearance the locusts were like horses arrayed for battle; on their heads were what looked like crowns of gold; their faces were like human faces, 8 their hair like women’s hair, and their teeth like lions’ teeth; 9 they had scales like iron breastplates, and the noise of their wings was like the noise of many chariots with horses rushing into battle. 10 They have tails like scorpions, and stings, and their power of hurting men for five months lies in their tails. 11 They have as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit; his name in Hebrew is Abad’don, and in Greek he is called Apol’lyon.
2nd Time in Trumpets and Cups
Fifth Bowl
Rev 16:10 The fifth angel poured his bowl on the throne of the beast, and its kingdom was in darkness; men gnawed their tongues in anguish 11 and cursed the God of heaven for their pain and sores, and did not repent of their deeds.
Fifth Trumpet. We have already been defeated. It is the second time when we are not in God but also not on earth. Beginning with the fall of satan, it indicates that he will be the one who produces the "smoke". And this smoke is the blackmail or the demand for justice by claiming the same fate as the other traitors. In reality it is a lie because we are not all the same, some of us betray for love; the smoke obscures the vision like the lies. This is what is described in the trumpet as "the key to the abyss". This will cause God the righteous one par excellence to revive the already vanquished demons (the locusts) to justify us in the world. And they will torment us for a certain time on earth. As a consequence, he mentions in the cups, in the world these will have no body, the demons have no freedom. It also seems to designate the locusts as the fruit of this abduction (they have us in their grasp in order to save themselves), so they have the crown of the Adam, the hair of the Eve and they constitute themselves as the shield or armour of the demons (iron). These locusts will not only torment us in the next time, now for us they eat the earth we are on to fall in the third time, in our world.
Trumpet and Cup correspond to the 5th seal in which the loyal fallen by battle (in heaven) ask for justice and are called to wait to count or complete the number of the righteous. The cup is the consequence of many "good" ones having fallen: the destruction of the demons. As an aside, the faithful angels also intervene in justice, perhaps not actively, but under this premise: the unfaithful should not be paid the same as the faithful.
3th Time in Trumpets and Cups
Sixth Trumpet
Rev 9:13-21 Then the sixth angel blew his trumpet, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar before God, 14 saying to the sixth angel who had the trumpet, «Release the four angels who are bound at the great river Euphra’tes.» 15 So the four angels were released, who had been held ready for the hour, the day, the month, and the year, to kill a third of mankind. 16 The number of the troops of cavalry was twice ten thousand times ten thousand; I heard their number. 17 And this was how I saw the horses in my vision: the riders wore breastplates the color of fire and of sapphire and of sulphur, and the heads of the horses were like lions’ heads, and fire and smoke and sulphur issued from their mouths. 18 By these three plagues a third of mankind was killed, by the fire and smoke and sulphur issuing from their mouths. 19 For the power of the horses is in their mouths and in their tails; their tails are like serpents, with heads, and by means of them they wound. 20 The rest of mankind, who were not killed by these plagues, did not repent of the works of their hands nor give up worshiping demons and idols of gold and silver and bronze and stone and wood, which cannot either see or hear or walk; 21 nor did they repent of their murders or their sorceries
Sixth Bowl.
Rev 16:12 The sixth angel poured his bowl on the great river Euphra’tes, and its water was dried up, to prepare the way for the kings from the east. 13 And I saw, issuing from the mouth of the dragon and from the mouth of the beast and from the mouth of the false prophet, three foul spirits like frogs; 14 for they are demonic spirits, performing signs, who go abroad to the kings of the whole world, to assemble them for battle on the great day of God the Almighty. 15 («Lo, I am coming like a thief! Blessed is he who is awake, keeping his garments that he may not go naked and be seen exposed!») 16 And they assembled them at the place which is called in Hebrew Armaged’don.
Sixth Trumpet. The Euphrates clearly refers to the Holy Spirit, the great river of fresh water. The 4 angels can speak to us of cardinal points or the whole of the river Euphrates. Although it seems to make a distinction with the previous trumpets; now it is not the devil (Wormwood or a big star that falls), now it is 4 angels that are next to the Euphrates River that eliminate that 1/3. It tells us that this annihilation is at God's command. It tells us of the fall of all of us to the earth. At this seal we will be in our world, although right now it is talking about the passage from heaven to earth; and of course without the Holy Spirit. We arrive dead.
Thus, the cavalry troop are those who expel us; their colours and what comes out of their mouths refer to the damned for different causes: fire to Satan as the flame is the most destructive, intense and painful thing. Smoke and Hyacinth speak to us of the Eves and Adams, as we fall by that lie, kidnapped by the demons. Sulphur represents the demons themselves, or else demons are exchanged for satan, sulphur for fire (it could be another way, but I think it is like that).
Then, the sixth cup coincides, it speaks of the Euphrates which recedes (withdraws) to make way for the kings of the east (= where the sun rises), the faithful angels. Again it refers to effects, first in heaven, from where we are already the betrayers. Then on earth where it refers to those who will be a test for the Adam. They are represented in the mouths from which these three unclean spirits and the unclean spirits themselves (like frogs) come out. The Dragon, would be Satan, the "beast", his body, the demons, and the false prophet the Eves, for they "preach" to the Adams an idol (knowledge, being like God, the apple), thus, false god preached, false prophet. This that happened in heaven and is why we fell will continue to happen in the world where the Eves, laugh and push the Adams away from God. In 14-16 "They are spirits of demons who ... go where kings ... 16 ... summoned in the place called in Hebrew Harmaguedon" is telling us that these (satan, demons, Evas) gather kings (Adam) and summon them in death (Armageddon). Both trumpet and cup coincide with his seal in which after an earthquake the stars (angels) fall from heaven... the kings are hidden... It is our fall to earth (heaven withdraws). In (15) Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth... he refers already to the time of the earth.
Separation
Now he makes another small separation, in which he speaks of an angel who gives a little book to John, who devours it, and which tastes like honey but which will embitter his bowels. It also speaks of two important witnesses who are always in front of God, who I don't know who it refers to. He tells John to seal what he has heard, that when the Mystery of God is consummated, something that by his will is revealed here, the end of time will come. Well, I reckon that in about 7 years from when this is known the end will come, about 2025 (God only knows). What would be the point of continuing if God's concealment has ended? In this section we also find Revelation 11:1-13, which tells us about what is happening on earth; when it says "measuring the sanctuary" it refers to marking the faithful or waiting for the result of our test in the world.
Rev 11:1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
Rev 11:13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
This earthquake seems to be separating us because now the 7th seal will come, which was announced earlier:
Rev 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
Here after the battle it gives us a foretaste of what will happen in the 7th trumpet, in which it tells us about Christ.
½ Time in Trumpets and Cups.
Seventh Trumpet
Rev 10:7 but that in the days of the trumpet call to be sounded by the seventh angel, the mystery of God, as he announced to his servants the prophets, should be fulfilled.
Rev 11:15 Then the seventh angel blew his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, saying, «The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he shall reign for ever and ever.» 16 And the twenty-four elders who sit on their thrones before God fell on their faces and worshiped God, 17 saying, «We give thanks to thee, Lord God Almighty, who art and who wast, that thou hast taken thy great power and begun to reign. 18 The nations raged, but thy wrath came, and the time for the dead to be judged, for rewarding thy servants, the prophets and saints, and those who fear thy name, both small and great, and for destroying the destroyers of the earth.» 19 Then God’s temple in heaven was opened, and the ark of his covenant was seen within his temple; and there were flashes of lightning, voices, peals of thunder, an earthquake, and heavy hail.
Seventh Bowl
Rev 15:17 The seventh angel poured his bowl into the air, and a loud voice came out of the temple, from the throne, saying, «It is done!» 18 And there were flashes of lightning, voices, peals of thunder, and a great earthquake such as had never been since men were on the earth, so great was that earthquake. 19 The great city was split into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell, and God remembered great Babylon, to make her drain the cup of the fury of his wrath. 20 And every island fled away, and no mountains were to be found;
The Seventh Trumpet. If we were cast out of heaven and fell to earth at the sixth trumpet, here it tells us how God Himself decides what to do to save us. It is Jesus Christ who makes the new nature fit and we are again able to receive the Spirit.
The 7th trumpet also corresponds, but again here we see the part of Jesus' offering in heaven that will cause the abduction to be disarmed in heaven and the creation of the world and the universe to try to save us. That is why it says "great mountains will fall on men", because great demons will live with us as a test for our justification.
Thus, the effects of the passion are clearly seen in the text; "to destroy those who destroy the earth", is to destroy the demons who destroy heaven, because in the passion the validation of man as capable of receiving the Spirit becomes effective and the demons no longer have the blackmail that protected them, because if in justice we could not live (with capital letters) as angels, we can now live as men. Without their shield then, the demons, when the trial of the world is over, will fall forever into hell or be destroyed.
And it ends with the opening of the sanctuary of God in heaven and the appearance of the Ark of the Covenant; Christ is the Covenant, he is the Ark, symbolising the covenant as something wonderful created and the inner God himself; created person through whom the Essence of God flows in full intensity (this is also a prefiguration of Christ in the Exodus which I have not put in the point of prefigurations). After this it will link to a great sign that appeared in heaven which also speaks of heaven and earth, and the 3'5 times. It is explained immediately.
When in the 7th cup it speaks of the Great City divided into three, it refers to demons, Eves and Adams. Now more than ever there will be a differentiation between the Adams and the Eves (sword I will put), because now many Adams will recover the Spirit and the fools will not understand. The Great Babylon, the demons will surely be the ones who in the passion are "destroyed" or left defenceless; now we are free and divided, before we were all condemned in one block.
And that is the end of the structure of the trumpets that I have examined together with the bowls. But now it speaks of "a great sign appeared in heaven", which is the same as the salvation that comes to us through Jesus and is also counted as an offering in heaven and done on earth. This could therefore be included in the ½ Time of salvation.
A great portent Appeared in Heaven
After the 7 Cups, before the seven angels with nothing (according to the royal order), it speaks of the Great Sign.
Rev 12:1 And a great portent appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; 2 she was with child and she cried out in her pangs of birth, in anguish for delivery. 3 And another portent appeared in heaven; behold, a great red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems upon his heads. 4 His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to bear a child, that he might devour her child when she brought it forth; 5 she brought forth a male child, one who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, but her child was caught up to God and to his throne. 6 and the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, in which to be nourished for [1260] one thousand two hundred and sixty days.
[7 Now war arose in heaven, Michael and his angels fighting against the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8 but they were defeated and there was no longer any place for them in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the Devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world–he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, «Now the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, who accuses them day and night before our God. 11 And they have conquered him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, for they loved not their lives even unto death. (12) Rejoice then, O heaven and you that dwell therein! But woe to you, O earth and sea, for the devil has come down to you in great wrath, because he knows that his time is short!»]
13 And when the dragon saw that he had been thrown down to the earth, he pursued the woman who had borne the male child. 14 But the woman was given the two wings of the great eagle that she might fly from the serpent into the wilderness, to the place where she is to be nourished for a time, and times, and half a time. 15 The serpent poured water like a river out of his mouth after the woman, to sweep her away with the flood. 16 But the earth came to the help of the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed the river which the dragon had poured from his mouth. 17 Then the dragon was angry with the woman, and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and bear testimony to Jesus.
We're done with the seven-angel structure. And we keep talking about the passion told as a story. Dressed in the 'sun' it seems evident that it is Christ, the Essence of God within. The moon under his feet refers to the Adam, who will reflect the light of the sun, that is to say, they will listen and follow (many) His word; if we look at the moon, when the earth or the world gets in the middle, we stop seeing or reflecting the sun. The more the earth is crossed, the less it is seen, and it even disappears. This happens to the man who puts the things of the world before God (and again He speaks to us of the intensity of the Holy Spirit in us, again God speaks through Nature).
Our Lady is queen and guardian of us, protective and most loving as a mother (let us remember: she does not keep God's exact essence, but she never emptied herself, she never betrayed either in heaven or here below, and she willingly took our nature too). The twelve stars, I suppose, will be the apostles, not the tribes.
In this reading there are 3 parts. The first from 1 to 6. The second from 7 to 13 and the third from 14 to 17.
In the first 1-6, verses 1 and 2, speak of the moment of the passion. Mary's suffering in the passion of Christ (the sword), which is the moment when we are all "born" (or resurrected as capable of receiving the Holy Spirit); the birth. Perhaps these passages confused Luther and his followers, but it does not refer to childbirth as such but to the validation of our Nature as being able to Receive the Holy Spirit, to Live. As an aside before I continue I add this:
Isaiah 66:7«Before she was in labor she gave birth; before her pain came upon her she was delivered of a son. 8 Who has heard such a thing? Who has seen such things? Shall a land be born in one day? Shall a nation be brought forth in one moment? For as soon as Zion was in labor she brought forth her sons. 9 Shall I bring to the birth and not cause to bring forth? says the LORD; shall I, who cause to bring forth, shut the womb? says your God. 10 «Rejoice with Jerusalem, and be glad for her, all you who love her; rejoice with her in joy, all you who mourn over her; 11 that you may suck and be satisfied with her consoling breasts; that you may drink deeply with delight from the abundance of her glory.»…
Verse Apo 12.3-4 introduces another participant in the story, the Red Dragon, who, although he also represents the Roman Empire (7 diadems, 7 hills), is the same demon and together with him speaks as always, and as a presentation or title, of the third part of the stars (or angels) who fell to the earth because of him. This demon, at the moment of the passion (described as childbirth), tries to devour Jesus, for we know, in fact, that he was tempted before the cross several times. On the cross, would He not be tempted by the devil, would he not whisper in His ear: "Cry out to them, hate them...", would the Pharisees not make disparaging remarks to Him, "If You are the Son of God, save Yourself and come down from the cross"? But He did not fall, the birth took place in love and He was caught up to God and to His throne (5); This would not make sense from the perspective of the normal birth (as soon as He was born He was caught up); it is about the birth of the Spirit Capable Man Nature. Now it says 6. The woman fled into the wilderness where she has a place prepared for her to be fed for 1260 days.
Well, Mary goes into the wilderness, it has a double meaning, as so often. One speaking of childbirth, as the real birth of Jesus, in which case, we speak of the red dragon as the Roman empire, historical fact: Mary flees with Christ born because Herod wanted to kill him; and another, speaking of childbirth as the passion, after the death of Christ, and after living the rest of her life as a woman, Mary, morning star, flees into the desert. This desert is our "heavens", that is, the universe, within the arc of time. It is said that Mary is the morning star that consoles the souls in purgatory when they see her passing by (Christians and non-Christians); that she is the star that enlightens us and guides us to her Son. In this sense the 1260 days (=42 months = 3.5 years) are named. These numbers represent our whole history of Salvation, our stages of life (in heaven with God, close to God but not in God - Cain Abel -, and on earth), it is worth reading The sealed prophecy of Daniel p.147, which uses the same numerology to understand these numbers.
Second part 7-13. This part is a consequence of the passion. It doesn't matter if it is set in motion before what happened in heaven. It does not matter, because all the Lord's plans are already set in motion in the offering of Christ in heaven to try to save at least the Adams. Perhaps once the traitors had risen in rebellion and the blackmail had been carried out (I want the same fate as the Adam's, traitors too), everything was at a standstill, until Christ offers himself. That is when the expulsion comes. Anyway, it seems that it speaks without time, because the important thing, the offering of the lamb or the passion, acts in both places, in heaven and on our earth. It refers to the sea and the earth (12), perhaps it refers to the Eves (sea=death) and the Adams (earth, where the fruit comes from) "because the devil has come down to you in fury, knowing that his time is short", or it may refer to the earth in general and it is after the passion that the devil is most furious.
Part three 14-17.The end of the first part is repeated, in which the devil pursued the virgin with the child, and the virgin flees to the desert for 1260 days (the 13th may also belong to this part, it would be the limit). Now the same flight is mentioned, in the same circumstances: in one she is fed (6) and in the other she is given the wings of the great eagle (14), both symbolising the Holy Spirit. If before it referred to the Passion and also in general to the Life of Christ (it ended with His being caught up to God and His throne), it now refers to the same time as before (1260), now expressed as 3,5 three and a half times (1260 = 42 months = 3.5 years). The 3.5 symbolising also the whole time of salvation of mankind, is used more to speak of the heavenly, the non-tangible, 1260 of the earthly. In this part it speaks of Mary in the heavens (of the universe, not 'heaven', we are still in the wilderness); it also sometimes refers to the last half (3 1/2 times). [As a note, I have always heard of Mary's ascension into the heavens, not 'heaven', I don't know if this is so or in any case if it has any relevance]. So this is a continuation of Mary's life within the Universe; of our ever companion and consoling mother. Finally, it ends like the second part, with the devil enraged because he cannot reach the woman, and decides to wage war on the rest of her children. Somewhat more difficult to interpret is what comes just before that.
We know that the tempters attack the one who has the most Holy Spirit the most. I don't know what relationship two " notable " entities like the virgin and Satan can have, one for the good and the other for the bad. But both are here with us.
The "like a river of water thrown up" (15), may refer to the devil and his minions trying to reach Mary who remains within time, either directly or by using the souls of those who are damned, but who will not be able to because he and those lost souls (they cannot ascend to God) are bound to the earth. The water usually refers to the Holy Spirit, not the vomited water, (in fact, it says, "like water", not water), perhaps he is trying to harm Mary with those who in the world, although they can keep the Holy Spirit thanks to the passion, they lose it following their temptations (they discard the Spirit that they could keep). It is known that the devil tries to harm God through us; surely also Mary who loves us greatly, loves us as our mother. From this last part (16) we would deduce that the damned souls tend towards the centre of the earth, that is, that hell would be there as it has always been thought, not in the centre of the Universe (or not necessarily in the area furthest away from God the Father).
The Beast
After the 7 trumpets and a great sign, pause to talk about the Beast
Rev 13:1 And I saw a beast rising out of the sea, with ten horns and seven heads, with ten diadems upon its horns and a blasphemous name upon its heads. 2 And the beast that I saw was like a leopard, its feet were like a bear’s, and its mouth was like a lion’s mouth. And to it the dragon gave his power and his throne and great authority. 3 One of its heads seemed to have a mortal wound, but its mortal wound was healed, and the whole earth followed the beast with wonder. 4 Men worshiped the dragon, for he had given his authority to the beast, and they worshiped the beast, saying, «Who is like the beast, and who can fight against it?» 5 And the beast was given a mouth uttering haughty and blasphemous words, and it was allowed to exercise authority for forty-two months; 6 it opened its mouth to utter blasphemies against God, blaspheming his name and his dwelling, that is, those who dwell in heaven. 7 Also it was allowed to make war on the saints and to conquer them. And authority was given it over every tribe and people and tongue and nation, 8 and all who dwell on earth will worship it, every one whose name has not been written before the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb that was slain..
This first part tells us about the beast that emerged from the sea. And this beast represents the fallen angels. The sea is turbid or dirty water, which is not pure. The sea also symbolizes death. Death of being or rather, of not having the Water of Life. The ancient serpent or Satan is the one who convinces the fallen angels, gives them the power of beast, they also hate. In this «Beast» is included Satan himself who is part of the fallen angels. (Then in Rev 17:11 it says: And the Beast, which was and is not, makes the eighth, but is one of the seven). Thus the mortally wounded head that was healed is Satan himself, who, after being overcome by the sword in heaven, is «healed» to fulfill all righteousness in the salvation of the Adams on earth (See Justice and Redemption in Christ p.107). When it says the whole earth followed the dragon, it means that all of us on earth in one way or another have followed the Dragon (or we have believed him if we are Eves, or we have believed the Eves if we are Adams); That is to say, it is true that the whole earth followed him, but not the faithful angels who did not fall to the earth. Everything he says afterwards also refers to what happens on our earth…
Rev 13:11 Then I saw another beast which rose out of the earth; it had two horns like a lamb and it spoke like a dragon. 12 It exercises all the authority of the first beast in its presence, and makes the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose mortal wound was healed. 13 It works great signs, even making fire come down from heaven to earth in the sight of men; 14 and by the signs which it is allowed to work in the presence of the beast, it deceives those who dwell on earth, bidding them make an image for the beast which was wounded by the sword and yet lived; 15 and it was allowed to give breath to the image of the beast so that the image of the beast should even speak, and to cause those who would not worship the image of the beast to be slain. 16 Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, 17 so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name. 18 This calls for wisdom: let him who has understanding reckon the number of the beast, for it is a human number, its number is six hundred and sixty-six.
This second part tells us about the Beast from the earth. These are the Eves, they do not hate, with two horns like a lamb, but they speak like serpents. The Eves, remember, persuade the Adams, exercising the same power as the same Satan who convinced the Eve. It brings fire down from heaven to earth, I believe it means that they cause some great faithful angels to fall (or convince), or even that by means of the eves they come to hate becoming other fallen angels. If there had been no Eves, the Adams would not have fallen, for these «doubted» for the love of the Eve. That is to say, without the Eve, it would not have been necessary for God to have created the world to try to redeem the Adams, since these would remain angels. In this way, infusing breath into the image of the Beast, that is, «healing» it to make it present in the world, is the responsibility of the Eve. To Satan, once overcome (killed by the sword), God recovered him so that, in fulfilling all justice, he could also recover the Adams in the new man nature; Which also has to pass the test that the angels passed in the heaven and we there we failed: to despise to Satan. …Many on earth have been killed for not worshiping idols… This Beast is then called a false prophet. In effect, the Eves make the cause of Satan their own, promoting it and announcing it as god (false god, false prophet).
Regarding the 666 I have already explained in «Before a little Numerology p.119(should read),» which comes from 777-111 = 666; Of the perfect we take away God and we stay with the devil. In addition, this number (6) is the number of man, also the attainment of the devil, because without him there would be no men but angels. Thus, 666 = man = Number of the Beast. Thus it says that all of the earth (big, small, kings …) have the mark of the beast in the hand or in the forehead. We have been made men by action (Eves, hand) or by doubt (Adams, front). Once empty of God we remain dead, «thrown away»; We can only exercise our freedom when God puts our prosthesis, bodies. That freedom is to buy and sell. Thanks to God and to the passion men will later have the possibility of receiving the Holy Spirit, not so the demons that only hate and have no body, are not men. We can win and lose Holy Spirit (buy: you get rid of «gold of the world», you win Spirit; sell backwards). It is important to differentiate between bearing the mark of the Beast, which is worn by all men, and «accepting» the mark of the Beast which, I believe, later on, refers to accepting to live as man for the world, also by action, many Rich people… or by desire: the one who does not have but idolizes and desires riches.
Then continue with those who accompany the lamb. Rev 14: 1-7.
The seven angels with ‘Nothing’ (1/2 General Time of Revelation)
If the seals are the 1st time, the trumpets the 2nd and the bowls the 3rd; these are the 1/2 time. Let's keep in mind that in each of them, except in this one, there are also 3.5 beats (let's not get confused). These go in this order, but the bowls come after, although I have put them in comparison with the trumpets. Think of it as Jesus offering Himself in heaven to save us, which brings about the healing of the world and the Universe itself, so this 1/2 half time is not out of place after all.
And a new structure of seven angels (in our land, after passion, 1/2 time):
Rev 14:6 Then I saw another angel flying in midheaven, with an eternal gospel to proclaim to those who dwell on earth, to every nation and tribe and tongue and people; 7 and he said with a loud voice, «Fear God and give him glory, for the hour of his judgment has come; and worship him who made heaven and earth, the sea and the fountains of water.» 8 Another angel, a second, followed, saying, «Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great, she who made all nations drink the wine of her impure passion.» 9 And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, «If any one worships the beast and its image, and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he also shall drink the wine of God’s wrath, poured unmixed into the cup of his anger, and he shall be tormented with fire and sulphur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment goes up for ever and ever; and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.» 12 Here is a call for the endurance of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus. 13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying, «Write this: Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord henceforth.» «Blessed indeed,» says the Spirit, «that they may rest from their labors, for their deeds follow them!» 14 Then I looked, and lo, a white cloud, and seated on the cloud one like a son of man, with a golden crown on his head, and a sharp sickle in his hand. 15 And another angel came out of the temple, calling with a loud voice to him who sat upon the cloud, «Put in your sickle, and reap, for the hour to reap has come, for the harvest of the earth is fully ripe.» 16 So he who sat upon the cloud swung his sickle on the earth, and the earth was reaped. 17 And another angel came out of the temple in heaven, and he too had a sharp sickle. 18 Then another angel came out from the altar, the angel who has power over fire, and he called with a loud voice to him who had the sharp sickle, «Put in your sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth, for its grapes are ripe.» 19 So the angel swung his sickle on the earth and gathered the vintage of the earth, and threw it into the great wine press of the wrath of God;
Again the structure is repeated: four angels first give the general announcements and three more serious angels speak of the harvest, reaping the good and the bad. It begins after the Passion, because it starts with "the good news" speaking of praising God and the beginning of the Judgement, and then goes on to say in the second that the great Babylon has fallen. It is after the passion that the shield that cemented the supports of the demons falls irremediably. It is a new structure of 7 angels that now speaks only of salvation. It seems that they also refer to the moment when Jesus offered himself in heaven. That doesn't matter, the important thing is that these, by speaking only of salvation or from the moment of salvation, constitute the general ½ time of the whole apocalypse (remember that we have already seen the 3 ½ times exposed independently with the seals, trumpets and bowls). The order is not decisive in the apocalypse (in fact, the bowls that speak of the whole history of salvation until the victory - as the seals and trumpets speak - come after these angels), the seals already anticipated that this would be the case. On the other hand, it is not entirely wrong, because the structures that tell our complete salvation history end with the subsequent victory and judgement of heaven. While it is true that by the passion, which is the last part, the battle is won, it is not subsequent to the final judgment that will take place in heaven; moreover, the moment of Jesus' offering in heaven is the beginning, shall we say, of that plan of salvation. On the other hand, these angels speak after the "A great sign..." (with the parenthesis of the Beast), which confirms that this new structure is the last half-time (3'5).
We continue with the 3rd which tells us of the sufferings that those far from God will undergo, at the hands of the demons and Satan himself (brimstone and fire), and makes a notation "14:12 Here the patience of the saints is required, of those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus." which places us, as I say, in the period we are in (after the passion, following Him).
The 4th is not identified as an angel, but gives a message from the Spirit so we rule Him out and I don't think He is God the father either as He is usually identified with some title or characteristic (the one who speaks among the 4 living, for example); and this one says: 14:13 "Write: Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord. From now on, yes," says the Spirit, "let them rest from their labours, for their works are with them". After the Passion we can receive the Spirit, and already at death the righteous do not go to Sheol, as was the case until then, they can ascend to heaven. With regard to these he says a little before this structure of angels, and a little after A great sign (i.e. we situate ourselves after the passion) that:
Rev 14:3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. 4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.
These then, are those righteous and we see that it indicates that they are "firstfruits" (4) or foretaste of the righteous to come. It is never a limit, heaven has no limit of size as some think or maximum number of saved. If this number (144000) is real, it would speak of Saints (not only righteous, because it says virgins without blemish) who lived before the passion and who, after the passion, being able to receive the Spirit as men, went headlong to heaven because they did not need to attend the final judgement (mercy laughs at judgement). As an annotation: they say that St. Dismas, the good thief, was the first to get to heaven because the Lord promised him on the cross that he would take him, but immediately after his body died, Jesus descended to hell (Sheol), as it could not be otherwise, to recover these righteous who could not receive the Spirit before the passion, then, any of them could really be the first (ok, this is nonsense).
The 5th cries out to Jesus ("14:14 ... and on the cloud one sat like the Son of man, wearing on his head a golden crown and in his hand a sharp sickle") to reap the harvest. The 6th with another sickle to harvest the clusters of the earth and a 7th with power over fire who is the one who tells the last one to do it and throw it all into the great winepress of the wrath of God.
All of them speak of what happens from ½ Time onwards.
Then would follow the angels with the 7 bowls which I have already shown compared to the 7 trumpets.
The Great Babylon.
As for Great Babylon, although it is explained later by an angel who is Rome, (I believe; the city of the seven hills), for me it also refers to all those who on earth do evil. That is: The demons, the Eves, but also the Adams who have not followed God. It says:
Rev 18:2 And he called out with a mighty voice, «Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great! It has become a dwelling place of demons, a haunt of every foul spirit, a haunt of every foul and hateful bird; 3 for all nations have drunk the wine of her impure passion, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth have grown rich with the wealth of her wantonness.» 4 Then I heard another voice from heaven saying, «Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues;
Here the birds refer as always to the Adams that can, or in this case could have been, lifted from the world (see Noah p. 36). Of course, we all live in the world with the Great Babylon, so says, come out of her my people.
Rev 18:8 so shall her plagues come in a single day, pestilence and mourning and famine, and she shall be burned with fire; for mighty is the Lord God who judges her.»
Rev 18:21 Then a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone and threw it into the sea, saying, «So shall Babylon the great city be thrown down with violence, and shall be found no more;
It is worth mentioning that after all, the end of time comes for Great Babylon in just one day. That is, perhaps when the end of the world comes, it will be quick. Which contrasts with what we thought earlier about the vast prophecy of the apocalypse. It is also important that "18:2 Babylon the Great is fallen" is mentioned after the angels speaking and also after the angels with the bowls. It seems then that it is the end here and "come out from there my people" would be the reaping of the harvest.
The end of the Apocalypse.
Regarding the ending it is quite clear, the reward of those who succeed. Although it then says that Satan will be imprisoned for a thousand years and then allowed to come out to fight one last time against the Beloved City and be destroyed. This means that, after the destruction of the world, God will not break time immediately, but will wait a thousand years. And how could it be otherwise? As I maintain, purgatory is the time it takes for a soul, when its body dies, to reach the edge of the universe; depending on the Holy Spirit it has, it will go up in more or less time, or if it has none it will go down. If He were to break time by destroying the world, what would happen to those who have not been purged? Or to those who were alive at the time? Would He take them back directly? Perhaps that would not be too fair to those who died thousands of years before and waited until they reached the edge of the universe (where the universe grows, filling the "gap" with God) or in any case until they passed through purgatory, subject to time (the parable of the labourers Mt 20:1-16, speaks of reward given, not punishment taken away).
Thus, after the thousand years, he will break the time (the vibrating sword), which is that which limits Satan, and then again he will want to fight against the Beloved City, against the angels and those who washed his soul with the blood of Christ. And it will definitely be destroyed because it can no longer use the Adams as a shield. We will not be kidnapped by him anymore.
Thus, after the thousand years, he will break the time (the vibrating sword), which is that which limits Satan, and then again he will want to fight against the Beloved City, against the angels and those who washed his soul with the blood of Christ. And it will definitely be destroyed because it can no longer use the Adams as a shield. We will not be kidnapped by him anymore.
The last two, chapters 21 and 22, speak clearly of heaven, or of our heaven perhaps, for those men who have achieved it (two trees of life, there will be separation with heaven from the angels probably).
As a last note, I would like to tell you that for me, besides those types of "beings" according to the betrayal (faithful angels, Adams, Eves, Demons), we were initially of seven different shapes or sizes. I know that God provides what is necessary for our salvation, hence the different religions I speak of at the beginning, and this comes from what we were in heaven. We are not arbitrarily born into a Christian or Muslim or Taoist nation... Also, he makes a lot of references always to 7 diadems, 7 heads that seem to allude to seven (types, peoples, supports, sizes or whatever). Even the 7 hills maybe God put them on Rome as well to give a "dual" sense to all this. In these 7 types of beings, Satan, whom he calls "the eighth" several times, is part of one of the 7 groups (of the biggest ones, because big mountains fell), but he is mentioned separately because he is the trigger. These 7 religions run alongside Love, profiling it in particular. It is not by chance that in the promised land, symbol of heaven, there are also 7 peoples (beyond the seven deadly sins represented by these peoples, see Prefigurations in the Torah p.14. and the Conclusion of the essay p. 371). Furthermore, these groups of 4 and 7 are continually repeated in the prophecies studied because they symbolise us; even the churches described here can refer directly to these types by size, not to the religions.
The key to deciphering Revelation, in addition to that already revealed here, is to study it from the 3 ½ Times, for to show them is its true purpose.
Well, of course I will have made mistakes. It's easy to confuse demons with the Eves, for example. But that's the way it goes. It would be good to make some adjustments, but I think the important thing has been demonstrated, and that is that only God could make Genesis, the prophets and the apocalypse of John coincide in the same coded message, which speaks of our history from heaven no less. I want to emphasise that if this has been revealed to us today, it is because without a doubt the end of the world is near, for God is just and what we now know could serve others who did not know Him before, He gives to us because He will cease to act in our history of salvation by eliminating the world all at once, which is a disadvantage for us. Or do you not already know that if this were not so, the devil would brand Him as unjust again? God loves us, but He cannot be unjust.